Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Quote Originally Posted by BIG H
Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Quote Originally Posted by BIG H
Interesting stuff fellas - if I was rating teh fab four p4p I would say

Duran
Hagler
Leonard
Hearns
How is Duran rated higher he lost all big fights like.

Wilfredo Benitez
Kirkland Laing
Marvin Hagler
Thomas Hearns in brutal fashion
Robbie Sims


His best wins were Iran Barkley and Pipino Cuevas and Davey Moore and he lost to guys like Laing and Simms who he shouldn't of lost to no way is Duran the best of the 4.
You obviously know more than almost all the respected boxing writers in the world that almost unanimously have Duran in the top 5 fighters of all time.

Problem is that you have not seen his career as a lightweight which is where he is a should be rated. He had already had 75 fights before any of the fights you mentioned and the loses were after he moved up atleast 2 weights - he was 71-1 at Lightweight FFS. Beat Sugar Ray Leonard at Welter, was level after 12 against Hagler at Middle all of this after over 70 fights!!

He started his career at 119 pounds, was 5'7 and had a 26" reach, is it really a surprisde that he lost to 6'1 Thomas Hearns at 154 pounds??

When you make comments like this about Duran you come across as a 'Johnnycomelately" whose only knowledge of Duran's career is what you have seen on Boxrec

And Chavez was 89-0 before he lost he should be top 5 aswell then ?? im making comments on what i think about Duran and 5 is way too high imo he only beat 2 good names at Lightweight Ken and Esteban and them 2 names shouldn't make you top 5 yes he had amazing record but top 5 of all time ?? surley not.


He started his career at 119 pounds, was 5'7 and had a 26" reach, is it really a surprisde that he lost to 6'1 Thomas Hearns at 154 pounds??

It doesn't matter he still lost in brutal fashion Duran lost most of the big fights like losing the trilogy against Leonard losing to Hagler yes he gave good account of himself but still lost he lost to Hearns in 2 rounds and he lost to Wilfredo Benitez and just because i disagree i have to look up on boxrec ?? i have watched many Duran fights and have studied up on him not on boxrec either.
















I agree with you ICB that Duran is not an all time top 5 P4P but is an all time top 5 LW........

You have to cut him some slack on the Hearns starching though.........I don't care who you are from 140-160 if you were caught with that shot flush you were laying down........Almost without question...With the exception of Marvin Hagler who seemed to have the chin of freaking GRANITE!!!!!....

Also these guys were the elite of all time....The speed the heart the power every single one of them from the 80's Duran, Hagler, Leonard, Hearns....Just in a whole different league then everyone else



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