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It seems like "Sugar Ray Robinson" has become the default answer for the old "who is the best P4P" question, and it seems like the answer everyone is willing to accept. And thats cool, because SRR was an incredible fighter and deserves any respect and admiration he gets.

But what about Whitaker? Does he unfairly get left out? It just seems to me that all the guys that get considered for the best P4P - SRR, Roberto Duran, Henry Armstrong, ect - always seem to be the guys with big punching power, something Pernell obviously lacked. So do you think Pernell gets underrated because of his lack of punching power?

I guess I'm just wondering why no one ever suggests that Pernell might be the greatest. I have DVD sets of a lot of a lot of the greats - Ali, Duran, Ray Leonard, Hearns, Ray Robinson, Roy Jones, ect - and Pernell strikes me as perhaps being superior to all of them. I think the guy was just on another level. I don't believe he truely lost a fight until he fought the much stronger Tito when he was 35 years old...
I feel sorry for Whitaker because imo he should have only 2 losses i bet when new boxing fans check up and see Whitaker loss to this guy they would of never heard of aka Jose Luis Ramirez and he lost to Oscar by that much even though he really didn't lose by that much ect thats impression i get from new boxing fans anyway but imo he is easily top 15 p4p of all time but was very unlucky with his decisions i think if he would of got the nod against Chavez and Ramirez like he should of had he would be rated alot higher but in record books it will always stand as loss and a draw and thats where Whitaker gets underrated imo but in my book he was one of the best defensive fighters ever if not the best he made it look so easy in the ring a pleasure to watch but very unlucky.
Whitaker deserved the win against Ramirez. But Ramirez was an outstanding fighter. And I think a lot of people of who watch boxing know Ramirez. It's unfair to call him an unknown.
VD bro i said Whitaker deserved the win and i wasn't calling Ramirez a unknown but you ask the average armchair fan and they will say Ramirez who ?? i tell you what speaking of Ramirez i loved his 2nd fight with Rosario man that was a war.