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It's called a dream.
You could be right. I don't assume it's a ghost or anything just something that doesn't usually happen to me that was weird. I won't try to say I KNOW something like that for a fact -

For the same reason though I don't know why you are so sure of this:

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[b]Surely as only man is supposed to have a spirit
Do you really believe that? I was brought up on a farm and have had many pets. As a child I had a horse which was 15 years older than me and you could tell because of the way she was extra careful not to hurt me while she wiped my older bros off on tree branches.

Dogs will often protect their owners out of what I think is affection. So why would these creatures which are often fairly intelligent and emotional not have souls. Where's the evidence for something like that in anything we see in everyday life?

I do think some people don't have souls. Sick child killers etc. People incapable of feeling guilt or compassion who get a thrill out of doing things which are incomprehensible to most people. I guess it depends on what you call a 'soul'.
I know what you are saying. I guess I just subscribe to the biblical belief that God made man in His own image.
'His own image' has to be mutidimentional when you feel out the truth surely?

Instead of reading what the evil Emperor of the Universal Roman Church shaped into the New testement into to suit themselves and their world domination.
The burned and killed anyone who wouldnt operate under their own Catholic guidlines for hundreds of years you know!
They rewrote and hid so much of the true way and they still do.


Animals have primarily a unity consiousness ,we have individualized consiussness by choice and have to eventually become accountable through that choice. Some ancient tribes still have unity consiousness,this isnt to say that they are soul less!!!
The difference between the two things are vast.The imature spiritual churches and their leaders dont even know where their own soul resides in their own bodies let alone how to form control over their consiusness or its levels through it!

Some animals can fall into the higher vibrationary love experience with owners and then share your levels with you or other dogs /people in those moments.


Some people can only see out of one eye,some out of two ,others out of their third eyes.

Some only out of their brown eye and their words follow suit.

Then there is a mixture of all the above with all the false and true claims in between usually to make money from or to the reverse extreme ;to protect a false sense of security in only the physical realm.
At the end of the day everything outside and inside of us is energy vibrating at different rates. light speed is NOT constant depending on where you stand and there are senses available to us that allow us to feel ,see and hear such energies if you wish to exersise towards them.

Hmm somebody has been reading the Celestine Prophecy I see. To be honest I hate New Age thinking with a passion. I don't know why the Catholic Church came into this, the contents of the bible is affirmed by the Jewish Torah and even the Quran in it's most signficant parts, the Catholic Church certainly don't have a monopoly on it.

The idea of animals having a higher vibrationary love experience as you put it is one of the reasons I hate this New Age stuff so much as it de-emphisises the significance of mankind within creation and reduces us to the status of highly evolved animal.

Ultimately any belief system is a matter of faith and I cannot convince why my own viewpoint is better than yours but this New Age white shaminism explains absolutely nothing and just introduces loads of pseudobabble and hocus terms to appease the 20 th century mindset and obsession with psychology and hippie spirituality.

It is entirely a temporal belief system, mostly concocted by stealing ideas from native Ameircan indians and other tribal societies whilst completely ignoring or misinterperating other aspects of tribal belief so that most tribal societes consider this new age thinking to be a blasphamous perversion of their own belief systems.

I think more than any other belief systems new age is very much a product of its times, beginning with the drug culture of the sixties and guys like Timothy Leary and now advocated with an attempt at scientific credibility under the likes of Deepak Chopra. I actually believe this is one kind of religion that will die out in our own lifetimes.