UFO's & Ghosts

[Kev]

Science has proof, they have methods and facts to back their claims up. All religion has is a book with a guy who can walk on water. Now guys tell me this, if a guy came up to you today and said "i can walk on water", would you believe it? Just like i told one of those religious door knockers the other day, i respect peoples right to have religion, i just dont believe in them. Even had him agreeing that a guy walking on water is pretty rediculous and lets just think. Back in those times people were pretty god damn gullable, they thought the earth was flat, witches existed and medicine in some cases was thought to be a trade of witch craft. Now lets add a guy who can heal the blind and walk on water. Where are these things today? They dont exist. IMO if you wanna believe in jesus than F*** why are aliens hard to believe in, theyre more likely to be out there on a distant planet with superior technology than some guy walking around this earth with the power to walk on F****** water.

Hmm Jesus was able to walk on water because he was God. If he was an ordinary man then obviously he wouldn't be able to walk on water but the whole point of the bible is that God Himself came to earth in the form of Jesus. If he was God then of course he could walk on water, if he wasn't then of course of he couldn't.

It's a matter of faith not of intellect. By the way people wern't any more gullible back then than they are now. They had witches and demons we have aliens and ghosts.

And the earth being flat was only a westernised view pre Columbus, ancient man knew the earth was round, indeed the bible says the earth is round in Isiah, even the Quran describes the earth as being a similar shape to an egg.

So why isnt god here now then, when the world is in probably alot more dire state then it was back then. Wasnt jesus, gods son? Which one is it? They were gullible, they would of probably saw a person pull a rabbit out of their hat and scream witch when we all know there is a trick to it. If you dont like to place anything on the shoulders of science than do you think we would have this technology you are using to type on this forum coz religion didnt give this to us So i think we can place more faith into science which has facts than something like the bible which could of just been made by a couple of guys in a cult of some sort. No proof at all that he could do what the bible stated. And also when moses went to a pharaoh and said free my people, history doesnt even tell us who the pharaoh was. If this was such a significant event than a name should of been mentioned. It is only rumoured that the pharaoh at that time was ramses the great (Ramses(spelling?) the second).

Ok as to the first question where is God now, read the bible to find out? It explains everything

Secondly religion and science. It may suprise you to know that it was Christiainity and Islam that actually gave birth to science. You see Christianity provide a methodology, a way of looking at the world that allowed scientific investigation into God's creation to take place.

All of the world's greatest scientists up to the 19th century were Christians, and fundamentalist believers in a biblical flood and the literal truth of the bible.

Sir Isaac Newton wrote more books on theology than he did on science. Johannes Kepler one of the greatest astronmers, Michael Faraday the discover of electro-magnetic induction and one the most important scientists of all time was a staunch Christian as was James Clek Maxwell who discovered the electromagnetic field. Other strong men of faith included Neils Bohr the most important physicst of all time who discovered the Atom.

In fact it could well be argued that were it not for the Abrahamic faiths Christianity, Judaism and Islam modern science would never have developed as the necessary methodology of a world that was meant to be explored and would be understandable to us because God had made it so would not have in place.

It is true that in many instances religious institutions seek to block scientific progress in order to support a world view prevalent at that time, for example the Catholic church putting Gallieo under house arrest for demonstrating that the earth went around the sun. However what they were 'protecting' was not a biblical belief but rather a Greek-Ptolomeic view of the universe.

The same situation exists at present with many theistic Christians denouncing fundamentalists for not believing in evolution. In fact it wouldn't suprise me at all if in a couple hundred years people will use the mainstream Church's belief in evolution as an example of them hampering scientific progress