Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
I was wrong with my prediction but another FOTY contender,great stuff. Everything was on display,heart,courage and it's not just 2 stupid bangers with no brains,both guys have great boxing brains. The difference this time was Vazquez used his jab much much more which allowed him to get inside more often where he is more dangerous and Marquez didnt use the jab enough/enough lateral movement. PLus he was careless with his defence when Israel threw the left hook.

Bilbo,justify your comment that Vazquez is not someone the elite would lose to,that he sucks etc. What is the basis for a comment like that?? He has heart,courage and good boxing skills. Defensively he is open but if a P4P puncher like Rafa cannot put him down,few can. He also showed his intelligence and the work they have done in the gym because he used his jab to much greater effect last night.

Marquez had not lost in 7 years so how does that make him over rated? I have a feeling you either have not seen much or do not know much about either fighter at all. Both have P4P skills.

And saying if Floyd Winky BhOp were that weight,they would school Vazquez and Marquez because they beat Tito is poor. So going by that thinking, B Hop lost to JT, and P4P Marquez is far more active,hits far more harder and is far more skilled than JT so he would beat Hopkins? P4P Vazquez is far better than Julio Cesar Vazquez so he beats Winky? It's easy to use the P4P concept like that.And it makes no sense.
yea bilbo doesn't like the smaller guys because he thinks anyone bigger can just beat them because they are small.

vasquez has always been a top p4p 15 in my books, he just boost himself up into top 10 p4p now. Which I knew he'll do after all him winning me a few hundreds last night

I just thought that even in the first fight marquez ran into a guy as good as him, unfortunately vazquez had that nose injury coming into the fight. As a smart fighter like rafa, rafa went after that nose with his jabs. That was the end of that, everybody hated on vazquez for quiting. Although for me, he made a wise move. Accept defeat to fight another day.

And that day came last night, I knew he'd get redemption against marquez. My confidence rose up I believe in the second round. When vazquez caught rafa hard with a left hook. From there own, rafa had his moments but vazquez was coming forward showing whos truely the better and stronger fighter.

One last thing, anybody who thinks that was a quick stoppage needs to re-watch in again and watch those fighters that have been injured permenantly after getting pounded specially how dangerous it is to be pounded by a p4pder like vazquez. Rafa was just trying to survive, those one or two punches he throw while trying to survive wasn't fooling anybody that knows the game. Rafa was in gigantic trouble, he was hurt bad.