Quote Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
I see your point but at the same time, fighters such as Vasquez and Donaire who Roach laid the groundwork for are doing better than ever, plus Oscar lost a SD to Floyd, hardly a bad job considering he was a 5/2 under dog.
But Vazquez lost under Roach and won under Perez, he looked like a different fighter. I know the nose probably contributed but he was a different fighter this time around.

I didn't know Donaire was a Roach trained fighter although it makes sense seeing as he is the pied piper of Manilla.