Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Thats just crazy talk...This is boxing....People have outs all the time...One day they are on the outs the next they are working together....It is a business......

As for Toney there is no one to blame bt himself for his condition...At the point and time of his career he is at everything with a trainer is just procedure...Freddie can not make him shed weight or stay on point....It is not like he will be teaching james anything new...Just like with Hopkins the only thing he really needs a trainer for is during the fight...........

As for the leaving Manfredo for DLH...lets thhink about it here a second OK....There was a ton more money to be made with Oscar....Again it is a business
It's not just his ability as a coach though, remember Justin Fortune quit and walked out claiming Roach was ripping him off trying to claim the money for 'training' fighters he had dumped for De La Hoya and left Fortune to work. I know he's been accused of getting involved in disputes between Arum and Pacquio as well.

I'm havn't really made up my mind to be honest, I didn't like the fact that he dropped a lot of fighters to train Oscar, I know it was a great opportunity but he could have dealt with a bit bit better surely. I mean he seemingly manages to juggle training 101 fighters simultanously but when Oscar calls it's a 24/7 job and he's got no time for anybody else.

I havn't really come to a conclusion myself I just get the feeling from reading between the lines that he soon be falling from grace so to speak.