Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick
There is ONLY but 1 person responsible for what happened with Toney, and that's Toney himself.

When you get/have seasoned fighters like him you can talk and encourage all you wan't but they're gonna do what they're gonna do.

I think Roach's is one of the best and for NO reason do the best fighters in the world come to Wild Card Gym to train with him....

B-Hop was the last win he had
Mick, I hear you but a trainer and a student absolutly work better when they know each other... They know what the other is thinking and know how to pump them up or settle them down. I think Roach is doing himself a disservice by training as a Mercenary(obviously not money wise)