Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
Quote Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
I see your point but at the same time, fighters such as Vasquez and Donaire who Roach laid the groundwork for are doing better than ever, plus Oscar lost a SD to Floyd, hardly a bad job considering he was a 5/2 under dog.

I didn't know Donaire was a Roach trained fighter although it makes sense seeing as he is the pied piper of Manilla.
Yeah, Nonito was trained by his father, Diosdao Gabi, and Freddie Roach at the wild card gym.