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u cant judge anyone who plays well in scotland!

rod wallace at the age of 39 knocked in 50 odd goals for gers and he couldnt even find the net south of the border

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When he got PT he did well....it takes some adjusting to get used to the type of play the EPL has.


Dempsey and Adu have done more in the EPL than Beckham has in the MLS.....and Adu has never even played in the EPL.....so just give them some freaking time.

Liek Onyewu....Newcastle was smart to get him but they gave him ONE SEASON and that was it....he never got used to the play and how the hell is he suppose to develop when he doesn't get an oppertunity to play and learn what works and what doesn't.


My very strong opinion is that none of the European teams....ESPECIALLY ENGLISH TEAMS want US players to be there much less do well....nothing else can explain the lack of chance our boys get over there....A SEASON? just ONE.....give Rooney ONE season where he's riding the pine the majority of the time and if he was American he'd have been gone no questions asked.

Brian McBride did well, Tim Howard did well....

Bocanegra, Simek, Spector, Convey, Beasley, Demerit.....all those guys play in the UK but I'm 100% sure they aren't the best players that the US has.


All I'm saying is give Adu a chance and he'll perform well....I know Altidore will do good things as well
personally i think becks has done more for the mls than any american has done for the prem even though he hasnt kicked a ball

Liek Onyewu wasnt up to the job, 1 season is enough to tell you what a player can do, especially a defender as there job is the same on every pitch in the world, he was big but losing 50 50's to smaller guys and being taken out of the play by smart strikers is not good enough in this league

mcbride and howard are doing very well and have stepped up as well as fridel who is quality between the sticks

we will never know how good Altidore is unless he plays here, sure that was a good goal but when you get the likes of essian, mascherano, makele, gerrard, hargreaves, even jimmy bullard running along side you you aint gonna get a shot like that away before the balls gone

but hopefully he will be good, personally though american soccer needs to get rid of the american football markings on the pitch, dreadful!!!
You can judge a player one how well they do in UEFA or Champions coming out of Scotland.