Quote Originally Posted by Mikefields
I see Hopkins as one of the bests still , i don't think , especially after watching those 2 losses , i dont think it diminishes what Hopkins has accomplished in his career , and i Certainly don't think it puts Jermain Taylor ahead of hopkins ; his two fights vs Hopkins could have easely gone either way , his fight against Wright was a draw which i believed he really lost , and his fights vs Spinks and Ouma wow...enough said

I didn't say Hopkins wasn't good.

I said he was 5th best, that's saying a helluva lot about a professional fighter. His loses to Taylor hurt him the same way it would hurt Mayweather if he lost twice to Hatton

Ask yourself this............
If Hatton beats Mayweather twice, should Hatton be ranked higher than Floyd on p4p lists??

Absolutely

He drew with Winky Wright who was actually fighting close to his natural weight. He beat Corey Spinks (who was and still is the #1 fighter at jr. middleweight according to the latest ring magazine rankings: http://www.thering-online.com/ringpages/ratings2.html) and took a breather to take on Kassim Ouma (who is still tons better than most guys Hopkins fought) Now he's fighting Kelly Pavlik. Pavlik is no joke, and had a big coming out party against Miranda.


Give Taylor a break. The guy fights everybody and beats everybody with the exception of one draw (I had Taylor ahead by two rounds over Wright)