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Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain
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If Calzaghe was born in America he would be currently in Rings top 3 p4p . No doubt about it




You mean like Manny Pacquio #2 and Juan Manuel Marquez #3??



Another well thought post by Julius Rain

Those two fighters arent british so I dont get your point . Why esle isnt Calazghe rated then ? It cant be on ring achievements cuz he is the longests reigning champion in the sport . Beaten everyone they put infront of him , undefeated too. Pac and Marquez lost recently but they are 2 and 3 ? Its BS ! But then again its just an opinion
I'm with frozen on this one. it doesn't matter if your undefeated or not and has been holding a abc title for years. its more than just that, jmm and pac they have fought all over the world they paid their dues, they don't just fight in their backyard hell they hardly ever do. They fight in the biggest stages possible. Joe just fights inside his little town, look how many guys he could be fighting but hasn't.he just now realize he needs to get out of whales to show if he really is great. But wait where is he fighting kessler at nevermind I guess he feels they have to come to him, good for kessler for wanting this fight. i really think kessler is going to win.

If joe was an american he prolly would be top 3 p4p right now because he wouldn't have been inside small whales, he would be in the best fights and biggest stages of the world. That is if he still has his title and undefeated record. I highly doubt he could make it to 30 fights and be undefeated if he was in america someone would of whoop him good a long time ago

Roy Jones never left USA - does that mean he's not Great?
Joe has fought many times outside of his own country Wales. He's even fought in Denmark and Germany.

Nigel Benn fought in the USA a few times and also Italy- the only US champ that would fight him in the UK was Gerald McClellan and he got destroyed. That's why Roy Jones would never fight Benn.
He hasn't done it many times once was a rematch with Veit after he destroyed him in 1 round oh yea thats a real threat

And the other one against Will McIntyre two bums basically well i will be fair to Veit and call him goodish but his chin was made of glass.

Jones didn't have to go to other countrys USA gets the biggest viewing plus all big fights were in USA at that time not the other countrys unless you count that other fighter he could of fought Dariusz Michalczewski and get robbed in Germany