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    Default Re: Barrera: Too silent , Pacquaio:Too loud

    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    One other thing Pacstraightleft is how long does this bet last ??
    You will suffer for one agonizing month.
    I gotta go with Barrera even though i like Pac i gotta go with my boy Barrera been a fan of his for years if Pac wins i will give him all credit in the world and ill take my whooping like a man but there is also a flipside to the coin

    I think if Barrera wins i think he might rematch Marquez.
    Lol! I like this bet. No handicap or nothin.


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    Default Re: Barrera: Too silent , Pacquaio:Too loud

    Barrera never talks- he just trains because he is a professional and not a wrestler. That said, and as a Barrera fan of nearly 20 years, I don't think he will win. Make no mistake, he was the far superior fighter, but his best is behind him and Pac is at his peak. A 1997 MAB would eat a 2007 Pac.
    Barrera will be ready for this fight and maybe make it competitive for a while- he is much more skilled than Morales- but I don't think he will win. I pray I'm wrong.

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    Default Re: Barrera: Too silent , Pacquaio:Too loud

    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold
    Barrera never talks- he just trains because he is a professional and not a wrestler. That said, and as a Barrera fan of nearly 20 years, I don't think he will win. Make no mistake, he was the far superior fighter, but his best is behind him and Pac is at his peak. A 1997 MAB would eat a 2007 Pac.
    Barrera will be ready for this fight and maybe make it competitive for a while- he is much more skilled than Morales- but I don't think he will win. I pray I'm wrong.
    A prime 1997 MAB would eat 2007 Pac?

    Are you tryin to say a 122 MAB would eat 130 Pac. MAB couldn't even lick Pac @ 126.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Junior Jones beat MAB twice in 97?

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    Default Re: Barrera: Too silent , Pacquaio:Too loud

    Quote Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
    Barrera looks down at Pacquiao’s punch

    http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/08282007/sports01.html



    I believe it was Manny Pacquiao who knocked Barrera down twice, not Morales, Juarez, or JMM.
    Everyone knows that its Pacs speed and accumulation that gets to his opponents. A Pac with slower hands wouldnt put fighters down as often.

    Barrera is talking perfect sense here. Im impressed by his sparring methods. By the descriptions these are the types of sparring partners he needs.

    Im sure he didnt train with these styles first time out. it will make a difference. Barrera is planning it all well.

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    Default Re: Barrera: Too silent , Pacquaio:Too loud

    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold
    Barrera never talks- he just trains because he is a professional and not a wrestler. That said, and as a Barrera fan of nearly 20 years, I don't think he will win. Make no mistake, he was the far superior fighter, but his best is behind him and Pac is at his peak. A 1997 MAB would eat a 2007 Pac.
    Barrera will be ready for this fight and maybe make it competitive for a while- he is much more skilled than Morales- but I don't think he will win. I pray I'm wrong.
    Prime Pac vs Prime Barrera --- Pac had won already during their 2003 fight.Have you forgotten? The Barrera that Pac defeated was still at his prime during their last fight. He even had won a title against Juarez after he was defeated by Pac.

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    Default Re: Barrera: Too silent , Pacquaio:Too loud

    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee
    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold
    Barrera never talks- he just trains because he is a professional and not a wrestler. That said, and as a Barrera fan of nearly 20 years, I don't think he will win. Make no mistake, he was the far superior fighter, but his best is behind him and Pac is at his peak. A 1997 MAB would eat a 2007 Pac.
    Barrera will be ready for this fight and maybe make it competitive for a while- he is much more skilled than Morales- but I don't think he will win. I pray I'm wrong.
    Prime Pac vs Prime Barrera --- Pac had won already during their 2003 fight.Have you forgotten? The Barrera that Pac defeated was still at his prime during their last fight. He even had won a title against Juarez after he was defeated by Pac.
    Oh, and a Prime Tyson clearly got a whooping off of James Buster Douglas!

    There is a difference between being in your prime and actually being mentally and physically ready for a fight.

    Second time will be a lot closer

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    Default Re: Barrera: Too silent , Pacquaio:Too loud

    Boxers are still human. Tyson was clearly beginning to lose his sanity before his fight with Buster.

    It's different also when your mind is willing but your body is weak.Tyson's body was willing but his mind is weak.

    Barrera's mind is willing but his body may not be too strong to hold on. Even a prime and mentally prepared Barrera may have a difficulty countering the barrage of punches from the pacman.

    One must admit that there will always be a greater person than yourself (from the desiderata). Barrera met that person in Pacman.

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    Default Re: Barrera: Too silent , Pacquaio:Too loud

    lets just wait and see but i bet marco wont last that long OR If manny would be too generous he might make the fight last long. Lets just pray for marco to be able to take the punishment.

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    Default Re: Barrera: Too silent , Pacquaio:Too loud

    I side with barerra, above any other physical, mental or emotional attribute, barerra has his pride. This pride is obviously driving him to prepare intensely and i believe it will be the difference come fight night
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    Default Re: Barrera: Too silent , Pacquaio:Too loud

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny
    I side with barerra, above any other physical, mental or emotional attribute, barerra has his pride. This pride is obviously driving him to prepare intensely and i believe it will be the difference come fight night
    i don't man. in this fight with pacman, he needs more than pride.he needs the agility of a young Barrera.

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    Well no doubt Marco will need more than pride. (Sorry i should have elaborated.) But my point was, this pride will fuel Barerra. The motivation is already in place for Barerra. He lost his last fight, he seems to be reaching the end of the line and the guy who stopped him a short time ago is at the top of the world.
    So what feelings must this situation inspire in Barerra? Anger? Inspiration? Sadness? lust for redemption? jealousy?
    Putting myself in his situation probably all of the above.
    And along with this mindset what does Barerra have left as regards his fighting repetoire?
    Power, Intelligence, Expierience, work ethic and heart.

    Combine the emotional attributes with the remaining physical armoury and the mind conjures images of a rugged veteran, battle scarred and defeated returning to the battlefield for one last stand against a fearsome adversary, for his last shot at glory. This is not only Barerras shot at putting to rest his personal demons but also his opportunity of bolstering his position in the upper hierarchy of Mexican boxing.

    Man sorry for gettin all carried away but this is what makes boxing!
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    Default Re: Barrera: Too silent , Pacquaio:Too loud

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny
    Well no doubt Marco will need more than pride. (Sorry i should have elaborated.) But my point was, this pride will fuel Barerra. The motivation is already in place for Barerra. He lost his last fight, he seems to be reaching the end of the line and the guy who stopped him a short time ago is at the top of the world.
    So what feelings must this situation inspire in Barerra? Anger? Inspiration? Sadness? lust for redemption? jealousy?
    Putting myself in his situation probably all of the above.
    And along with this mindset what does Barerra have left as regards his fighting repetoire?
    Power, Intelligence, Expierience, work ethic and heart.

    Combine the emotional attributes with the remaining physical armoury and the mind conjures images of a rugged veteran, battle scarred and defeated returning to the battlefield for one last stand against a fearsome adversary, for his last shot at glory. This is not only Barerras shot at putting to rest his personal demons but also his opportunity of bolstering his position in the upper hierarchy of Mexican boxing.

    Man sorry for gettin all carried away but this is what makes boxing!
    nice one. kinda like what morales felt just before the rubber match with pac.

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    cc in 24 KKisser. HaHa u can see im quite emotionally involved every time i box huh
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    Default Re: Barrera: Too silent , Pacquaio:Too loud

    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
    Barrera looks down at Pacquiao’s punch

    http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/08282007/sports01.html



    I believe it was Manny Pacquiao who knocked Barrera down twice, not Morales, Juarez, or JMM.
    Everyone knows that its Pacs speed and accumulation that gets to his opponents. A Pac with slower hands wouldnt put fighters down as often.

    Barrera is talking perfect sense here. Im impressed by his sparring methods. By the descriptions these are the types of sparring partners he needs.

    Im sure he didnt train with these styles first time out. it will make a difference. Barrera is planning it all well.
    I agree, Pac applied that kinda style with Velasquez, Larios, and Solis.

    But let me remind you also that Manny scored the first KD with a solid straight left against MAB. The same situation with JM Marquez (all 3 straight left KDs), and Morales 3 (1st left uppercut KD). So I wouldn't say Pac is not a hard puncher like you or Barrera claim.

    I can safely say that Pac has the speed and power.

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    Default Re: Barrera: Too silent , Pacquaio:Too loud

    Miles

    CC for you my friend . Everything you say makes perfect sense but some it seems are too blind to see it .

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