Hall of Famer,DEFINTELY,all time great,I'm not so sure but most probably no. He has fought everyone there is to fight.

He beat alot of good names but just as you can say his losses were against guys who were just superb fighters(b hOP tITO,SSM ) his wins can easily be viewed as being more impressive than they were. He beat a Vargas who was just DESTROYED by Tito.Ditto Mayorga. He beat Quartey but alot of fans(not myself)think Ike should have got the decision.JCC was old as heck and had been through war after war,he had nothing left to give.He beat other good names at the lower weights but none were as big as the names mentioned above.

It's a double edged sword. You can't say,oh he lost to the best and he's an ATG at the same time,that doesn't make sense,especially seeing as his biggest wins were not as clear cut either. Hall of Famer for sure but for a guy who will be rememberd more for his losses than his wins,and as harsh as that sounds,it's true,you cannot classify him as an ATG,not imo.

And there is no way he would make top 30 ATG imo.Great fighter,great fighter,very skilled BUT lost his biggest fights and his biggest wins were close.