Winning 6 belts in 6 weight classes is not easy but it's not as hard as it used to be either. Guys like Pernell used to fight the best to win the fight and defend it v the best.

Oscar won the title at 160 from Sturm in a fight which he should easily have lost,then he lost the title in the next fight. He won the 154 pound title from Mayorga,then lost it in his next fight. Are those achievements really those of an ATG? I don't think so. And saying IF he had won v Shane,IF he had won v Tito,is nothing but hypothetical thinking. He didnt win. We are using facts.

Like I said,and no-one has refuted me convincingly yet,when a guy is remembered more for his losses than his wins,as evidenced by some of the posts here,I don't think he should be an ATG. Should George Chvalo be high as an ATG simply because he lasted with the best HW's ever?I know it's an extreme example but you get the point.

I can see why you guys would have him as an ATG but I believe that term is flung around far far too much and is confused with Hall of Famer.