Quote Originally Posted by Eli_jr24
Quote Originally Posted by caleoh12
Another topic that sufficed within boxing conversation between my friends and I is the legacy of De La Hoya. We were torn, being that half of us thought he had a monumental career and the other half felt he was slightly less than great. Personally I was in between both arguments.

Without a doubt, he did not shy away from the big fights but he also rarely pulled those fights off. His notable wins come from Julio Caesar Chavez (old by that time), Pernell Whitaker, Ike Quartey, Arturo Gatti, Fernando Vargas, and Ricardo Mayorga. I feel that Gatti and Mayorga are just names, not good fighters. His losses come from Felix Trinidad, Shane Mosley (twice), Bernard Hopkins, and Floyd Mayweather. He did well against the "B"-Class fighters, but when it came to the "cream-of-the-crop" he couldn't win.

I feel if he didn't lose focus and go grammy hunting he could've been one of the best ever. I was wondering what everyone thought of Oscar's career?
I'm going to make this simple for you and your friends. Obviously you guys are judging him on his recent years and not judging him on his whole career.
A guy with 1 gold medal, 10 different titles in 6 weight divisions. That is an automatic bid. He defeated many fighters who were in their prime or were at the top of the divisions. He Ko'd Rafael Ruelas(43-1) in round 2. TKO'd Genaro Hernandez (32-0) in 6. Defeated Julio Ceasar Chavez(34 yrs old at the time with a record of 96-1-1) the first time by TKO in the 4th. Also forgetting about wins over Hector Macho Camacho(63-3-1) and Miguel Angel Gonzalez (41-0).

With all do respect to your topic, this shouldn't even be a debate. He beat Tito Trinidad and me being Puerto Rican I admit. He beat Mosley in the 2nd fight.

I have a question for you? Do you think Mike Tyson should be a HOF despite his 2 losses with Holyfield, loss to Lewis,upset loss to Douglas and his other 2 losses? I think Tyson is an automatic bid, but according to what you guys are saying he too has only beaten "B" class fighters. What about Roy Jones Jr? are you guys going to question his HOF? There are plenty more guys I could think of, I'm just giving you these as an example. This is why this topic should not be debated and if you truly know much about boxing, DLH & HOF should be unanimous.

I'd hate to see the list most of your friends would come up with for who they think are Hall of Famers.......
#18 Eli. That post ruins any opposing argument for me.