Quote Originally Posted by bambamdaddio
But in Mugabi we still have a guy coming up from light middle weight to fight Hagler...as I remember...could be wrong tho...

And to take another scenario I remember Nigel Benn saying when being asked about Mc Clellands power, He said before the fight something on the lines of Ive been hit by middle weights and Ive been hit by super middle weights, and let me tell you super mids hit back harder and stand up longer...and so it proved to be...

So would or could that not also be the case here with Mugabi and Hagler...I dont dislike Hagler so dont sad click me on those grounds Im just bringing a debate to the table boys no more no less....He was a fine warrior of that Im in no doubt at all..
I think you are confused on some things there mate...I am not sure what your version of blown up or how well you know the scientifics of the sport.....Just because a guy starts at WW lets say...that does not mean that is his natrual weight....You have to remember at ages 21-25 your body is still growing not so much in height but in mass....you do not settle down until you are about 25 or so...a guy who is at WW in the beginning of his career and moves up to lets say 154 after 10 or 15 fights and stays at 154 his natrual weight is 154....the only difference is he is not sucking the weight he usually is...also many guys will punish themselves to make a lower weight class for the advantage....

Look at Marvins comp and look at what they accomplished after moving up in weight...weight you would consider not their natrual weight....

Ray Leonard--wins robbery against Hagler...Moves all the way up to LHW and wins a title...

Tommy Hearns--Loses to Hagler but goes on to win SMW,,LHW,,and some minor cruiserweight titles....First man to beat future HOF bound Virgil Hill at LHW,,Beats Olajide at SMW...has wars with Barkley,,,beats nate miller at CW...Blows out James Shuler at MW right after Hagler fight....Hearns is 6'1" to Hagler's 5'9 1/2"'s

John Mugabi fought as high as SMW before fighting Hagler and averaged about 155-160 most of his productive career...

Minter,,Antuofermo and most the others all middleweight for 98%of their productive careers...I say productive because the first few fights are not counted as anything because it is not until something is accomplished that the career really starts IMO....

The only blown up guy was Duran...who even though was a small guy went on to have some tough fights against much younger guys all the way until the late 90's...guys who he would have beaten 10 years prior even at 160....

If these guys like Hearns, and them came up from 147 or 154 for just that fight and were blown out never to return to the division or not have any success later on I can understand what you are saying but thats not the case...


BTW I don't think anyone will give an SC over the debate good topic got everyone in on it....