Yeah me too there, I just thought he felt he would catch up with Ray and did nothing in the early rounds knowing that he would pin him in a corner eventually and then work him over, which of course did'nt happen....

but to me the result didn't matter because morally Ray had won by going the distance and win or lose, he had gone close enough for the argument, which in itself was a great deed done..

as I said in opening this debate, should Hagler have been caused so much trouble by a guy he totally dis regarded, and as well as having only the one fight in five years which saw him,Leonard that is floored by Kevin Howard I think it was) not to mention coming up in weight and off a detached retina injury...So back to the point......Was Hagler that great then??

Don't kill me for asking just finding out the consensus of opinion as I respect the forum and most writers opinions on here...which is why Im asking you guys about the man while also putting across my own points of view, I do not dislike Hagler...just wondererd where you guys have him in the big picture of all time greats..

PS...forgive the spellings, checker aint working for me at mo