Leonard vs Hagler: Who Really Won?

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Hagler won. Leonard fooled the judges (and the crowd) with meaningless flurries, most of which did not land, and when they did land he was slapping the punches and never came close to doing any damage to Hagler. Hagler started slow, granted, but in the middle rounds landed the hurting punches and took the fight to Leonard. He had him hurt at least three different times, and Leonard was saved by the bell each time.

That said, I wouldn't go so far as to call it a "robbery" because Hagler did not fight smart the first part of the fight. I'll never figure out why he came out in a conventional stance. He also had to know that Leonard would have the judges and the crowd in his pocket and that he couldn't fight a methodical, no frills fight and get the decision. Still, I saw it 7-5 for Hagler. Not a robbery, but Leonard was all style and little substance.

They wern't meaningless punches they were good solid combos them combos even sounded louder than Haglers punches when they connected.

Leonard's punches sounded louder because he was slapping him with open gloved shots. That will make a louder sound than a solid, straight punch. Plus, a majority of the punches in those combos were blocked or didn't land cleanly. They just looked pretty. He never did any serious damage at all to Hagler. Like I said, though, Hagler did not fight as smart as he should have and that is what cost him the decision.

I wouldn't call them slaps certainly didn't look that way when i watched it did you give Leonard 1st 4 rounds ?? and also i would love to see punchstats for this fight.

Well, like I said, I wouldn't call it a robbery, I guess it just depends on what you look for when you score. I gave Leonard 3 of the first 4 rounds (can't recall off the top of my head which I gave to Hagler--it's been about a year since I watched the fight). I gave Hagler 6 of the last 8 because I thought he was inflicting by far the most damage with his punches. If you were looking for more volume and combos then I could see some of those rounds going to Leonard. Like I said, Hagler should have fought it smarter. To anyones knowlege, has Hagler ever explained why he came out fighting in the conventional stance?

I gave Leonard first 4 rounds and to answer the last bit of your question i believe it was because Hagler wanted to show Leonard that he could outbox Leonard and Hagler got too cocky and he payed the price in the end for that fatal error in the early going.