Quote Originally Posted by Taeth
I disagree ICE on two accounts.

1) Taylor was hit flush by a hard hitter in Hopkins. Bernard is a legitimate hitter at middleweight.
2) Did Winky not pressure Taylor? I sure saw him pressure Taylor, and still Taylor did decently against a very talented Winky Wright.

Besides those two things I believe that Pavlik looked good against perhaps the most overrated boxer in the sport. Miranda was a poor man's Jeff Lacy and for some reason people thought he was a god because he had good power. What people didn't seem to care about was his lack of coordination, how slow he was, his poor defensive skills, and the fact that he was largely untested especially against another slugger.

I am not sure if Taylor wins, but he is the faster fighter, the more skilled fighter of the two, and he hits pretty hard himself.
Hopkins is kind of fighter that wears you down with accumulation of punches like he did with Tito the only time he got to Taylor was in last 4 rounds of the 1st fight he caught him with a few decent shots but he hardly hit him in first 8 rounds averaging at round about 8 punches landed a round wasn't it ?? thats not proof enough that Taylor has good chin.

Winky pressured him but not like Pavlik will and he doesn't have nowhere near the power of Pavlik remember Winky just like Hopkins wears you down with accumulation of punches and even Winky don't hit as hard as Hopkins.

And i think its unfair to call Miranda a poor mans Jeff Lacy.