Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
I understand what your saying but i still think its unfair how all the big fighters avoided him and i consider him best Junior Welterweight Tszyu wouldn't of beat him he hated pressure fighters who didn't allow him to get distance aka Vince Phillips aka Hatton.
Right I see your point, but I mean check this out Mancini didn't avoid him he just lost the set up fight.
SRL, let's just say he would have beaten SRL how much would that have helped him?
I mean SRL beat Hagler, Hearns & Duran and his legacy is still questioned and his place in history is still questioned.
About Tszyu vs. Pryor well who knows but I know it would have been one helluva fight.

Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Im not saying he beat all cab drivers but alot of his kos did come from cab drivers he beat few goodish opposition but when he come up against the elite of the elite he failed im not saying thats bad thing losing to people like Wilfredo Gomez Daniel Zaragoza Jeff Fenech is nothing to be ashamed of but i still feel Zarate is bit overrated he never beat any of the top boys and his best wins were against goodish opposition.
But see that's the thing he kept KOing his opponents even after the cab drivers ended and World Class opposition began, thats why his considered amongst the P4P hardest hitters. I'll give you the Gomez lost but come on it was a known fact that Zarate was fighting more to just earn a living rather then campaign to get a title shot. The oppourtunities presented themselves to fight for big money and a title and he went for it well past his best days but he went for it.
I agree on the overrated but I also think your slightly cutting him short a bit on his career.


Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
What i mean is like VD made good point people like Greb and ect people have never seen fight but he is top ten of there lists and i feel the newer fighters don't get a fair share slice.
I agree, that's why I only comment or put my two cents on fighters I have seen.
If I haven't seen them fight then theres nothing for me to comment on or if I don't know their career and I have no idea as to what they accomplished I stay away from that.