Quote Originally Posted by Punisher136
After what ali did for the division and the sport itself, holmes comes out, beats a shell of ali, calls him overrated, and calls himself (in an undirect way) the greatest heavyweight fighter of all time.
What about Ali? What about Ali beating the shit out of a 46 year old Archie Moore? What about him dancing and taunting the shell of a great former fighter who, along with others, opened the door for HIM to make money in this profession? What about him arrogantly predicting that he'd knock him out in 4 rounds? And of course what about Muhammad Ali claiming that HE was the greatest of all time? Sure, now he has a right to claim that but he was claiming that shit long before he had any right to do so.

See thats what I don't get. Muhammad Ali did the same shit Holmes did (he went even farther than Holmes as a matter of fact), but because Ali was charasmatic he got away with it. Its stupid really.

People give Holmes shit for being cocky, saying stuff like "Rocky couldn't carry my jockstrap". Ok, he insulted Rocky's inring ability. Look at the way Ali insulted guys like Liston and Frazier. Not only did he attack their inring ability, he made it personal. He called Joe Frazier an uncle Tom and a gorilla. It just amazes me how people are up Ali's ass but condemn others for doing the same stuff he did, even when its clearly on a much lesser scale.