Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Quote Originally Posted by Memphis
Right so we cant talk about Castillo who at worst came very close to beating Mayweather a long time ago but we can talk about Eamonn Magee who had one good round against Hatton a long time ago.

Its relevant if someone thinks its relevant, thats the bottom line.

If Hatton had rematched Collazo and beaten him soundly would people disregard his first effort? of course they wouldnt. It still offers some insight into what another fighter can achieve, same with Mayweather Castillo 1.
Im not saying you can't bring it up but when people are bringing up first fight they always seem to forget they had a rematch and Mayweather easily won plus if you remember didn't Mayweather have injury to his shoulder in first fight ??
You'll have to go back and read my long post again as I updated explaining why I brought up that fight.... I was just talking about how the first fight between Castillo and Mayweather played out, Style wise... To put it in the right context, you can complete forget the fighters names or whether they had a rematch or whether whoever won or lost... Until that fight I didn't think anyone could even come close to match the style of one of the fighters in that match... After that fight I saw that if attacked in the right way, on the right night, by the right person, his style is not completely unstoppable..

That is the absolute sole reason I brougt up that fight... If there were another fight with a person with a similar style to Floyd, who i'd witnessed dominate every opponent comfortably through a bunch of fights, and personally been impressed by their performace to the point where I came to the conclusion they were almost unstoppable... But then someone came along that fought them a little different to everyone else, and managed to even up the score, I would have made reference to that fight instead so people don't get mislead as to the point i'm making.

Although i'm sure someone would have said that is even MORE irrelevant because it's different fighters.


All i'm talking about is styles. And how, once upon a time I thought one style and how one person used it was unstoppable. But I was then fortunate enough to see it matched by someone. Which was a huge suprise at the time. But none the less made me realise no one is unstoppable.

You just have to put why I brought that fight up into context....

"The only relevance I was drawing upon from that fight was that you would expect Ricky to come out hounding Floyd the way Castillo did.. Whether or not it works as well for Ricky as it did for Castillo,, well,, that question is why so many people will be looking forward to watching this fight December 8th.."

I understand Ricky does not fight the exact same as Castillo, and yes blah blah Castillo lost the second fight comfortably. I'm only saying, and this is probably relevant to every fight mayweather has had since Castillo 1,,,, and that is,,,, if ANY fighter can fight as well as Castillo did in that 1 fight,,, then they have a chance at beating Mayweather... That's ALL i'm saying... It's just a very plain statement that you can make about ANY boxer in the sport at one stage or another and it's either true or not true based on personal opinion....


If I want to change it around to be a total dick, I would say, Castillo nearly beat Floyd in that fight, maybe really did beat him... Hatton can beat Castillo, so therefor Hatton is going to beat Floyd.... NOW EVERYONE should start argueing with me.... and i've heard people use a statement like that to argue their point.... that is a million miles from what i'm saying.


To summarize,

All I wanted to point out is that I had personally obsevered a number of Ricky's, and a number of Floyd's fights leading up until now, and made my own personal judgmenet on a way that I thought Ricky may or may not be able to even up the score with a Mayweather, who has the potential to dominate just about every boxer out their if they don't bring their A+ game plus some....

I am ONLY basing this statement on the first PFB Castillo fight yes... Because that's the only fight were i've seen anyone come even close to Floyd.... IF that fight did not exist, I would be here stating,
"That from my personal observations, I don't see a way that Ricky can beat Floyd".....

That's absolutely it..

How I personally came to that conclusion by observing certain situations I think is completley relevant... In the same respect, it's irrelevant if Castillo and Mayweather have fought 100 times since then... I'm only refering to one single situation that had relevance to me and my opinion of how 2 styles make a fight..... and in this case, a fight that was a hell of a lot closer than ANY of Mayweathers others... and if that fight did not exist, my opion of whether anyone could match Mayweather would be completely different...

I'm only trying to add another 1% to the discussion by making reference to the one time Floyd has been matched, and the style that did it....
I'm not trying to make that 1% into 99% and twist it around, and tell everyone what's what, and why my statement will be the be all and end all for this upcoming fight...
That would make me a total moron.


I hope someone understands what I mean... I'm running late for work to explain that.