who wins a peak mike tyson or lennox lewis

[Master]

If Lewis wanted to make a statement then he would have done it quicker, do not make excuses for his over cautiuouness.

Tyson peak was shorter and when he was younger but that does not mean he would not beat Lewis. All I am saying is that Lennox would not have been complacent as he was with his two defeats, he would have protected himself to loose a UD against a peak Tyson, if he opened up he would have got caught, hurt and stopped. Tyson could fight fully for 12 or 15 rounds at his best.

[ICB]

If Lewis wanted to make a statement then he would have done it quicker, do not make excuses for his over cautiuouness.

Tyson peak was shorter and when he was younger but that does not mean he would not beat Lewis. All I am saying is that Lennox would not have been complacent as he was with his two defeats, he would have protected himself to loose a UD against a peak Tyson, if he opened up he would have got caught, hurt and stopped. Tyson could fight fully for 12 or 15 rounds at his best.

Well considering he never fought 15 rounds you can't be certain on that 15 rounds is a big difference it would be hard for Tyson to go 15 rounds with the amount of energy he uses.

And i don't know why you think Lewis would just go into defensive shell and throw no punches Lewis has never been scared of anyone he would jab jab jab move and if Tyson come bobbing and weaving in he would launch that uppercut that Tyson was open for Lewis at his best always rised to the occasion.

[Master]

Tyson was due to go 15 with Tyrell Biggs but he annihilated him in 7.

If Lewis opened up with an uppercut he would have got caught with a right hand similar to the ones landed by McCall and Rachman. Thus he would be on his backfoot throughout the fight looking for openings but too cautious to use them.

[ICB]

Tyson was due to go 15 with Tyrell Biggs but he annihilated him in 7.

If Lewis opened up with an uppercut he would have got caught with a right hand similar to the ones landed by McCall and Rachman. Thus he would be on his backfoot throughout the fight looking for openings but too cautious to use them.

Yes but what has that got to do with Tyson being able to do 15 rounds easy ?? Biggs was a punch bag after first round for some unknown reason he stopped moving and using his jab after he had won first round using the same tactics.

So Lewis would have just tried to survive against Tyson and not throw anything ?? whatever.

[Mr140]

If Douglas could outbox a prime mike tyson then a prime Lewis should not have any problems

[Master]

The Tyson that fought Douglas had no head movement, did not throw combinations and was not the same fighter that had fought in his other previous defences. It was plain to see. His outside life did begin to affect his boxing.

Lewis is cautious by nature and I see the his fight with Tyson going the same way(ish) as the Tucker fight when he fought Tyson. A UD for Tyson.

[BIG H]

If Douglas could outbox a prime mike tyson then a prime Lewis should not have any problems

You think that was prime Tyson in that ring with Douglas??

[BIG H]

After 65 votes - Tyson is winning this debate 57% to 43%

[Gandalf]

After 65 votes - Tyson is winning this debate 57% to 43%

Tyson will always be the man and it doesnt matter that Lennox beat an over the hill Tyson.

Tyson did his work in his early and wonderfully explosive years.

What happened after is a shame but should not allow for revisionism Khruschev style...

[BIG H]

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[Gandalf]

Fancy seeing you here

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[Wayne]

he managed 8 rounds because he wanted to punish tyson for what he said to lewis and what he done to lewis if lewis can survive early onslaught through first 4 rounds he then starts to frustrate tyson and wins decision or possibly stop tyson late

Not true. Lewis is on record as saying he was amazed that Tyson was taking the shots he did. Emmanuel Steward was screaming his head off for Lewis to stop pitty-pattying and clear Tyson out because he knew that the Iron one was potentially dangerous.

If they fought in Tyson's prime in 1988 Lewis would definitely have lost. Tyson had a penchant for chewing up tall heavyweights at the time and Lewis, while good, was still somewhat green.

But magically-mystically if they both could have fought in their own relative primes... it's a pick 'em. I don't think Lewis ever got the credit he deserved and people are sudden Tyson-revisionists as if he weren't as good as he was. Sure Tyson had flaws, but that certainly didn't make him unique. The combination of speed, power and defense inside a little package did.

yes lewis said that but he also said he wanted to punish him for what he said about his kids and he bit him jeez i would wana punish him aswell and it doesnt matter how long it took lewis to stop past it tyson it wasnt close so who cares ?? prime for prime like i said its pick em its either tyson early or lewis late
[/quote]

But Lennox was unmarried and had no children at the time, so I don't think he was punishing him for that.

[donnydarkoIRL]

For me Lennox would have emulated the performance we saw against any version of Tyson. Sure the younger tyson improvised more movement, more defence and more emphasis on setting up his power punches, but he's still a much shorter fighter that would walk into Lewis' jab and right uppercut. Lennox was an incredibly strong man, he was very precise and against the younger Tyson i feel all he would of had to do would be to draw mike into the deeper rounds. Mike expended, in fact wasted a lot of energy when he threw so many punches early, missed a good percentage and his sheer aggression also burned fuel at the source. He would have tired himself out, get cut again and would not have survived the twelve, thats my opinion.

[Master]

Tyson naturally slowed his onslaught after a number of rounds but he caused a lot of damage during those early rounds and I disagree with you when you state he wasted his punches. The opponents were too bloodied and battered to capitalise and his work rate did not drop off drastically in any event. He did tend to get into clinches more and throw less combinations but he could do 12 and even 15 rounds if anyone was able to take him there. Very few were able to do that. It was not who he fought that made him a potential great it was the way he fought and the manner of his victories that demonstare that he was greater than Lennox Lewis.

[ICB]

Tyson naturally slowed his onslaught after a number of rounds but he caused a lot of damage during those early rounds and I disagree with you when you state he wasted his punches. The opponents were too bloodied and battered to capitalise and his work rate did not drop off drastically in any event. He did tend to get into clinches more and throw less combinations but he could do 12 and even 15 rounds if anyone was able to take him there. Very few were able to do that. It was not who he fought that made him a potential great it was the way he fought and the manner of his victories that demonstare that he was greater than Lennox Lewis.

How do you know he could do it for 15 rounds ?? well if thats the case then Tyson would of been in alot of trouble in fight with Bonecrusher would of been 15 rounds because he was in quite alot of trouble at the end of the 12th round 15 rounds and 12 rounds are totally different you can't say for sure that Tyson would be able to do 15 rounds.


The opponents were too bloodied and battered to capitalise and his work rate did not drop off drastically in any event

No they didn't capitalise because they didn't fight simple as most of Tyson's opponents went into defensive shell except for a few like Tillis who gave Tyson very tough arguement and Tucker but he stopped fighting after 4 rounds and went into defensive shell aswell.


it was the way he fought and the manner of his victories that demonstare that he was greater than Lennox Lewis.


And what victories were these you mean Berbick ?? who was koed in 1 round before Tyson done it ?? or Spinks who shouldn't of even had the title getting 2 gift decisions off a faded old Holmes.

Or maybe Holmes who was 2 years ring rusty and had short time to prepare for the fight only a couple of weeks ?? what about Thomas who had just got rehab or Tubbs who had 2 weeks to prepare and looked like a blown up ballon ??