yea but they have not fought so it just baised on a opinion and i think pavlik would over power them to tell you the truth they do not have the power to keep him off and winkey has been 1-1-1 and b-hop has been 2-2 and Pavlik is 2-0 and is the new middle wieght champion after beating the man that beat b-hop twice and had a draw with winky and that is the way it is regradless of what anyone thinks so why not have him in teh pound for pound