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Andrade has no defence he would be KTFO in middle rounds.
Alright you're REALLY overrating Pavlik now.

I can't believe that. I know you're better then that, Adrande walked through EVERYTHING Mikkel Kessler threw and didn't even get wobbled, but Pavlik who would have to move up in weight would stop him in the middle rounds

I think Pavlik left TOO MUCH of an impression on you last night
Kessler is not a devasting puncher he is a decent puncher he threw everything but the kitchen sink at Andrade and couldn't even move him Pavlik only needs one punch and thats it your out i have never considered Kessler a devasting puncher Pavlik is a big Middleweight and will make 168 easy as pie Andrade blocks punches with his face you don't really think he could go 12 rounds getting hit with Pavlik's best shots do you ??

And yes Pavlik did impress me and a fighter like Andrade who has no defence and comes right for you would be a perfect opponent for Pavlik.
Yes I agree Andrade's defense is poor. But I think he can take Pavlik shots for a couple of rounds. Taylor and Miranda did. And who knows what happens in those rounds? Keep in mind Andrade posses a big punch himself. And Pavlik is pretty easy to hit. Not to mention his chin is not made of iron. So Andrade scoring a knock out is not out of the question. Pavlik can make 168. But can he take 168 pounders punch?
I actually didn't think much of Andrade when i see him he has no defense he isn't even a decent boxer because he has no real skills yes he has power and a good chin but what else ?? Pavlik has a good defense except for taunting Taylor and getting stupid in round 2 and getting caught he blocked alot of Taylor's punches he has amazing power good chin and great jab and imo is much better fighter than Andrade in every department and as for Miranda and Taylor well they are big Middleweights Miranda was 173 when he fought Pavlik and Pavlik was 171.

Andrade is bigger than Miranda and Taylor. He's the same size as Pavlik. With a longer reach. And I think he's stronger. Andrade has fought at Light Heavyweight before. I don't see Pavlik being able to back Andrade up as easy as he did Miranda. If I was to grade there defenses, I would give Andrade a D- and Pavlik a C-. Pavlik is not hard to hit at all. He's been down 4 times for a reason. The way i see it is Pavlik ain't the boxing type. He's a knock out type a guy. I don't see him boxing Andrade. I think he'll trade with him. Which is pretty much the only way Andrade can win. It'll come down to whose chin can take the most punishment. Based on there history, it looks like Andrade has the stronger one. He's never been down. Am I saying Andrade wins? I don't know. But he has a hell of a fucking chance