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Well your points go out fo the window when you use the Margarito fight as an analogy....he thought he won. Everyone thinks they are winning. But when someone admits to thinking that they are behind and the look of surprise on his face when told he was winning,thats completely different. Only a fool would have had JT ahead by 3 rounds. Look at the punch stats. Look at who was landing the harder punches. Thank goodness Kelly won and took it away from those corrupt judges.

Elusivness?He was getting backed up.

Speed-Pavlik had the power.

Fighting off the ropes because he was being backed up there and had to fight back or get knocked out...which eventually happened.

And like I said,you originally said Pavlik was missing,well,judging by the punchstats,the fight I saw and the fight most saw,I don't think he was.Like I said,thank goodness Kelly won via KO,because getting a decision v Jermain is neigh on impossible. This was a 1 point fight either way max.
Thats a bullshit statement. Calling me a fool AND a hell of a lot of other people who thought Taylor was up by at least 3 points in the fight. I don't care if Jermaine Taylor THOUGHT he was losing. Like I said he is not watching himself..when you're feeling those punches from Pavlik that must be disheartening! Maybe it's an idea of where JT's confidence is at the moment if he thought he was losing. It has no bearing on how the fight was actually going. You want to refer to the punchstats and say Pavlik wasn't missing? That makes no sense what so ever because the punchstats say Pavlik threw many more punches than Taylor but didn't land as many so he was therefore MISSING a lot of his punches. Dunno how you can use that as an arguement to say Pavlik wasn't missing lol
End of the day this is all opinions and what people percieve to be good looking, POINT SCORING boxing. Taylor was scoring points, simple as. Calling someone a fool for thinking Taylor was winning is foolish in it's own right. The commentator even said Pavlik was running out of idea's and just running the one-two every time. Eventually one of the two's got Taylor and that was all she wrote. All of my friends who were rooting for Pavlik had Taylor well ahead on points too. Also if you're going by the HBO scorecard then god bless you..how many times has Harold Lederman been completely wrong and also disagreed with Larry and Jim. Again its all down to opinion. This was one of those fights.
But how can you have Taylor up by 3 points though ?? its impossible because Pavlik won 3 rounds clearly.
I had Pavlik winning 2 rounds, Taylor 4 with a 10-8 round. Thats 3 points. Not 'Impossible' as there were a few people who had this scorecard. The fight wasn't one-sided by any means. It was a 50-50 fight with both fighters landing but I just gave Taylor the edge in cleaner punching, defence (until the last 1 or 2 when his left hand kept dropping) and ring generalship. 58-55 isn't a wide score if you consider the 10-8 round!!