Joe Calzaghe invites Kelly Pavlik to Cardiff.

[Dark Lord Al]

The problem with Calzaghe is that he is a cocky dikhead... You really think he is being genuine and humble My asss that guy is a certified underachieving prik.

Oh and by the way we dont want Joe Calzaghe to fight over here he isint worth the trouble, he is far by #1 fighter that I look forward to retireing and as he thinks he will be remembered as Superman, but he will be in for a rudeawakening when he is mentioned in the same breath as Sven Ottke.

I hope Kelly fights him next and concusses the little gobshite

so true my friend

[JT Rock]

Calzaghe wouldnt even put a dent in Pavlik... Kelly 6'3 75 in reach with demonic power, great jab, granite chin, gigantic heart, stamina, Humble and down to earth as they come with solid hands against Joe Calzaghe 5'11 72in reach pitter patting pussy slap power, and twig fingers... Oh and by the way all you Calzaghe worshipers do you remember the one punch that Joe runs into frequently and has trouble against? THE STRAIGHT RIGHT

Joe dosent have enough power to keep Kelly off of him, kelly will walk him down and have Joe tits up by the 7th... Guaranteed accepting every single and bet along with sig bets

Joe needs to shut the fuk up and worry about Kessler

[Fenster]

ahahaaa

Did I miss something here?

Isn't Calzaghe just congratulating Kelly and inviting him to take Taylors ringside seat?

[JT Rock]

ahahaaa

Did I miss something here?

Isn't Calzaghe just congratulating Kelly and inviting him to take Taylors ringside seat?

Now you no damn well that man dosent have a hospitible bone in his body.. He is trying to stir the pot

[Big_Deuce]

or maybe calzaghe wants to know how pavlik hits so hard without breaking his hands

[Fenster]

ahahaaa

Did I miss something here?

Isn't Calzaghe just congratulating Kelly and inviting him to take Taylors ringside seat?

Now you no damn well that man dosent have a hospitible bone in his body.. He is trying to stir the pot

Isn't he just doing what's expected?

Remember Taylor-Calzaghe has been linked for ages. Taylor said he was going ringside for Kessler-Calzaghe. Taylor vs Kess/Calz would have been a massive fight, but obviously Pavliks ruined that so he can take Taylor's place...and make for much better fights to boot.

[Wacko3205]

wow you guys are F****** pathetic...

You got a ring champion inviting another ring champion over to a fight for a possible future show down and you F****** cry babys moan? seriously

Calzaghe has rpetty much fought and beat the best in his deivsion for years and tried to get the ottke fight... Robin reid, brewer, michel, shiek, viet, lacy all of them were built up to be something, viet was coming in with the rep kessler has, just without the belt, sheika was the next mike tyson, ried was the real wbc champ who got screwed over in ermany, mitchel got screwed in germany, brewer screwed in germany everyone who seen the fights new it...

Just coz the us and europe built up these people he handled should not be blamed on Joe - he has fought the next big thing last year, and again fighting the number 1 ranked SMW and looking to fight the undisputed middleweight champ in future and you guys are giving him S***? pull your heads out of your arses will you

Face it Preme HE TALKED AND TRIED ABOUT THIS FIGHT AND THAT FIGHT
fact is, in my opinion hes a joke , and it seems alot agree with me.
YOUR WELSH AND YOU LOVE HIM WHICH IS FINE ALSO.
but i for 1 hope Kessler ends his unbeaten record as i really dont like him as a boxer and i cant accept him as a true champ for the reasons you have made clear.................
HE TRIED FOR THIS FIGHT , HE TRIED FOR THAT well he also talked about Roy Jones at lightheavy BLAH BLAH BLAH
hes a joke end of story. I think hes a wasted talent , hes got something,AND its a pity he has spent 10 years using his talent againest total S*** fighters as a whole .
So dont come saying to me this or that, im telling you my opinion and if you dont like it then burry your head back up KING JOES A.S.S FOR ALL I CARE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What did he say int hat quote that he has done? he spoke about pavlik beating the best middleweight and invited him over? you got your problems with him what seem to be based on who he fought yet are talking S*** when he is calling out a fello ring champion?

this has nothing to to with me being welsh or a massive fan of Joe, i was the same when people were talking S*** about mayweather fighting hatton because he was a weight lower...

If he doesn;t fight them you all F****** moan, if he calls them out you moan, when he beats them you claim a case of overrated or washed up.

F****** pathetic.

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[Kel]

Calzaghe wouldnt even put a dent in Pavlik... Kelly 6'3 75 in reach with demonic power, great jab, granite chin, gigantic heart, stamina, Humble and down to earth as they come with solid hands against Joe Calzaghe 5'11 72in reach pitter patting pussy slap power, and twig fingers... Oh and by the way all you Calzaghe worshipers do you remember the one punch that Joe runs into frequently and has trouble against? THE STRAIGHT RIGHT

Joe dosent have enough power to keep Kelly off of him, kelly will walk him down and have Joe tits up by the 7th... Guaranteed accepting every single and bet along with sig bets

Joe needs to shut the fuk up and worry about Kessler

Reading that almost made me piss by pants

[Preme]

wow you guys are F****** pathetic...

You got a ring champion inviting another ring champion over to a fight for a possible future show down and you F****** cry babys moan? seriously

Calzaghe has rpetty much fought and beat the best in his deivsion for years and tried to get the ottke fight... Robin reid, brewer, michel, shiek, viet, lacy all of them were built up to be something, viet was coming in with the rep kessler has, just without the belt, sheika was the next mike tyson, ried was the real wbc champ who got screwed over in ermany, mitchel got screwed in germany, brewer screwed in germany everyone who seen the fights new it...

Just coz the us and europe built up these people he handled should not be blamed on Joe - he has fought the next big thing last year, and again fighting the number 1 ranked SMW and looking to fight the undisputed middleweight champ in future and you guys are giving him S***? pull your heads out of your arses will you

Face it Preme HE TALKED AND TRIED ABOUT THIS FIGHT AND THAT FIGHT
fact is, in my opinion hes a joke , and it seems alot agree with me.
YOUR WELSH AND YOU LOVE HIM WHICH IS FINE ALSO.
but i for 1 hope Kessler ends his unbeaten record as i really dont like him as a boxer and i cant accept him as a true champ for the reasons you have made clear.................
HE TRIED FOR THIS FIGHT , HE TRIED FOR THAT well he also talked about Roy Jones at lightheavy BLAH BLAH BLAH
hes a joke end of story. I think hes a wasted talent , hes got something,AND its a pity he has spent 10 years using his talent againest total S*** fighters as a whole .
So dont come saying to me this or that, im telling you my opinion and if you dont like it then burry your head back up KING JOES A.S.S FOR ALL I CARE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What did he say int hat quote that he has done? he spoke about pavlik beating the best middleweight and invited him over? you got your problems with him what seem to be based on who he fought yet are talking S*** when he is calling out a fello ring champion?

this has nothing to to with me being welsh or a massive fan of Joe, i was the same when people were talking S*** about mayweather fighting hatton because he was a weight lower...

If he doesn;t fight them you all F****** moan, if he calls them out you moan, when he beats them you claim a case of overrated or washed up.

F****** pathetic.

preme!

CC back

I can understand sometimes when joe gets shit, he does talk sometimes when he shouldn't (i feel its a build up of years of frustration tbh, now hes got the fame he can speak alot) but i agree when the people across the pond hit back about it, i can see where Jt comes from when he show boats, its no secret im a huge calzaghe fan, but watcha fight with me and when he drops his hands or fucks about (like the bika fight) i was on my feet in my local screaming at him to cut the shit it, it pisses me off as much as anyone...

But when a guy is simply giving another fighter props, and just extending the hand for a possible future fight that just about no one would argue with, and love to see, to see him get shit for that is just mind blowing

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Ice i give you props often for your posts, i liek to read alot of them, but you really seem to look back at alot of what calzaghe done, and the fighters he fought in hindsight, and when you comment on them about being no threat and other things your trying to answer a question that has already been answered...

I'm with you on the fact shieka was not the next tyson, and alot of the guys calzaghe whooped were maybe exposed, or later proven to be nothing special, but you can't boxrec records and say he was nothing, i mean yeah shieka lost, but he was like 23, 24 and fresh off beating johnson? not bad for a kid, i don't know why he lost when he did, weather there was something legit about it or maybe something distrupting him - but i'm 99% sure even if you download the british verison of the fight it says in there something about him being billied as SMw tyson and a big ass threat, along with alot of others joe beat.

[ICB]

wow you guys are F****** pathetic...

You got a ring champion inviting another ring champion over to a fight for a possible future show down and you F****** cry babys moan? seriously

Calzaghe has rpetty much fought and beat the best in his deivsion for years and tried to get the ottke fight... Robin reid, brewer, michel, shiek, viet, lacy all of them were built up to be something, viet was coming in with the rep kessler has, just without the belt, sheika was the next mike tyson, ried was the real wbc champ who got screwed over in ermany, mitchel got screwed in germany, brewer screwed in germany everyone who seen the fights new it...

Just coz the us and europe built up these people he handled should not be blamed on Joe - he has fought the next big thing last year, and again fighting the number 1 ranked SMW and looking to fight the undisputed middleweight champ in future and you guys are giving him S***? pull your heads out of your arses will you

Face it Preme HE TALKED AND TRIED ABOUT THIS FIGHT AND THAT FIGHT
fact is, in my opinion hes a joke , and it seems alot agree with me.
YOUR WELSH AND YOU LOVE HIM WHICH IS FINE ALSO.
but i for 1 hope Kessler ends his unbeaten record as i really dont like him as a boxer and i cant accept him as a true champ for the reasons you have made clear.................
HE TRIED FOR THIS FIGHT , HE TRIED FOR THAT well he also talked about Roy Jones at lightheavy BLAH BLAH BLAH
hes a joke end of story. I think hes a wasted talent , hes got something,AND its a pity he has spent 10 years using his talent againest total S*** fighters as a whole .
So dont come saying to me this or that, im telling you my opinion and if you dont like it then burry your head back up KING JOES A.S.S FOR ALL I CARE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What did he say int hat quote that he has done? he spoke about pavlik beating the best middleweight and invited him over? you got your problems with him what seem to be based on who he fought yet are talking S*** when he is calling out a fello ring champion?

this has nothing to to with me being welsh or a massive fan of Joe, i was the same when people were talking S*** about mayweather fighting hatton because he was a weight lower...

If he doesn;t fight them you all F****** moan, if he calls them out you moan, when he beats them you claim a case of overrated or washed up.

F****** pathetic.

preme!

CC back

I can understand sometimes when joe gets S***, he does talk sometimes when he shouldn't (i feel its a build up of years of frustration tbh, now hes got the fame he can speak alot) but i agree when the people across the pond hit back about it, i can see where Jt comes from when he show boats, its no secret im a huge calzaghe fan, but watcha fight with me and when he drops his hands or fucks about (like the bika fight) i was on my feet in my local screaming at him to cut the S*** it, it pisses me off as much as anyone...

But when a guy is simply giving another fighter props, and just extending the hand for a possible future fight that just about no one would argue with, and love to see, to see him get S*** for that is just mind blowing

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Ice i give you props often for your posts, i liek to read alot of them, but you really seem to look back at alot of what calzaghe done, and the fighters he fought in hindsight, and when you comment on them about being no threat and other things your trying to answer a question that has already been answered...

I'm with you on the fact shieka was not the next tyson, and alot of the guys calzaghe whooped were maybe exposed, or later proven to be nothing special, but you can't boxrec records and say he was nothing, i mean yeah shieka lost, but he was like 23, 24 and fresh off beating johnson? not bad for a kid, i don't know why he lost when he did, weather there was something legit about it or maybe something distrupting him - but i'm 99% sure even if you download the british verison of the fight it says in there something about him being billied as SMw tyson and a big a** threat, along with alot of others joe beat.

Right ok you say hindsight is a wonderful thing ok now im going to turn that back on you and say who was Glen Johnson at that time ?? he got dominated by Hopkins lost to Sosa lost to Ottke got outboxed by Syd Vanderpool infact when he fought Sheika in his last 10 fights he had 6 losses and Sheika only just about scraped through against Johnson and he did not impress against Johnson.

[Preme]

wow you guys are F****** pathetic...

You got a ring champion inviting another ring champion over to a fight for a possible future show down and you F****** cry babys moan? seriously

Calzaghe has rpetty much fought and beat the best in his deivsion for years and tried to get the ottke fight... Robin reid, brewer, michel, shiek, viet, lacy all of them were built up to be something, viet was coming in with the rep kessler has, just without the belt, sheika was the next mike tyson, ried was the real wbc champ who got screwed over in ermany, mitchel got screwed in germany, brewer screwed in germany everyone who seen the fights new it...

Just coz the us and europe built up these people he handled should not be blamed on Joe - he has fought the next big thing last year, and again fighting the number 1 ranked SMW and looking to fight the undisputed middleweight champ in future and you guys are giving him S***? pull your heads out of your arses will you

Face it Preme HE TALKED AND TRIED ABOUT THIS FIGHT AND THAT FIGHT
fact is, in my opinion hes a joke , and it seems alot agree with me.
YOUR WELSH AND YOU LOVE HIM WHICH IS FINE ALSO.
but i for 1 hope Kessler ends his unbeaten record as i really dont like him as a boxer and i cant accept him as a true champ for the reasons you have made clear.................
HE TRIED FOR THIS FIGHT , HE TRIED FOR THAT well he also talked about Roy Jones at lightheavy BLAH BLAH BLAH
hes a joke end of story. I think hes a wasted talent , hes got something,AND its a pity he has spent 10 years using his talent againest total S*** fighters as a whole .
So dont come saying to me this or that, im telling you my opinion and if you dont like it then burry your head back up KING JOES A.S.S FOR ALL I CARE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What did he say int hat quote that he has done? he spoke about pavlik beating the best middleweight and invited him over? you got your problems with him what seem to be based on who he fought yet are talking S*** when he is calling out a fello ring champion?

this has nothing to to with me being welsh or a massive fan of Joe, i was the same when people were talking S*** about mayweather fighting hatton because he was a weight lower...

If he doesn;t fight them you all F****** moan, if he calls them out you moan, when he beats them you claim a case of overrated or washed up.

F****** pathetic.

preme!

CC back

I can understand sometimes when joe gets S***, he does talk sometimes when he shouldn't (i feel its a build up of years of frustration tbh, now hes got the fame he can speak alot) but i agree when the people across the pond hit back about it, i can see where Jt comes from when he show boats, its no secret im a huge calzaghe fan, but watcha fight with me and when he drops his hands or fucks about (like the bika fight) i was on my feet in my local screaming at him to cut the S*** it, it pisses me off as much as anyone...

But when a guy is simply giving another fighter props, and just extending the hand for a possible future fight that just about no one would argue with, and love to see, to see him get S*** for that is just mind blowing

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Ice i give you props often for your posts, i liek to read alot of them, but you really seem to look back at alot of what calzaghe done, and the fighters he fought in hindsight, and when you comment on them about being no threat and other things your trying to answer a question that has already been answered...

I'm with you on the fact shieka was not the next tyson, and alot of the guys calzaghe whooped were maybe exposed, or later proven to be nothing special, but you can't boxrec records and say he was nothing, i mean yeah shieka lost, but he was like 23, 24 and fresh off beating johnson? not bad for a kid, i don't know why he lost when he did, weather there was something legit about it or maybe something distrupting him - but i'm 99% sure even if you download the british verison of the fight it says in there something about him being billied as SMw tyson and a big a** threat, along with alot of others joe beat.

Right ok you say hindfight is a wonderful thing ok now im going to turn that back on you and say who was Glen Johnson at that time ?? he got dominated by Hopkins lost to Sosa lost to Ottke got outboxed by Syd Vanderpool infact when he fought Sheika in his last 11 fights he had 6 losses and Sheika only just about scraped through against Johnson and he did not impress against Johnson.

in fairness johnosn as done sweet Fa since either, but is still known... your agruing with me over something that i didn't say or claim, i'm not syaing shieka was the next tyon or should of been, but he was being said to be a threat and the smw future tyson...

[Preme]

and going down the same path as sheika's loss, look at joppy - got his ass handed to him by tito in 5 rounds, yet 2 years later losses to hopkins on points, but when people talk about hopkins they bring up joppy as if he is a good scalp to have have...

[ICB]

and going down the same path as sheika's loss, look at joppy - got his a** handed to him by tito in 5 rounds, yet 2 years later losses to hopkins on points, but when people talk about hopkins they bring up joppy as if he is a good scalp to have have...

Nope not me Preme i don't think Hopkins Middleweight reign is much.

[LeftHookToTheBody]

One problem for Joe in terms of quality of opposition is that since the 168 division was created it has traditionally been very thin in terms of top fighters. Guys like Roy Jones Jr. and James Toney would make brief detours in the divison on their way up the scales, but overall the division has never been deep in talent. That was not something in his control. Joe has fought most of the guys who were said to be the top challengers or tough tests; if it turned out they weren't as good as advertised, that isn't his fault. Now, if you want to put forth the argument that he should have moved up to 175 in order to prove himself against better competition, that's fine.

[LeftHookToTheBody]

and going down the same path as sheika's loss, look at joppy - got his a** handed to him by tito in 5 rounds, yet 2 years later losses to hopkins on points, but when people talk about hopkins they bring up joppy as if he is a good scalp to have have...

Nope not me Preme i don't think Hopkins Middleweight reign is much.

That's kind of interesting; I'd be curious to know your opinion of Hagler's reign over the divison. The reason I ask is because they are very similar. Like Hopkins, Hagler's biggest victory was over a former welterweight (Hearns and Trinidad) known for his big punch. Like Hopkins, the quality of opposition during the reign was questionable. If you look at Hagler's 12 successful defenses, other than Hearns only Antuofermo and Duran (fighting 25 pounds above his best weight and 5 years outside his prime) were former champions and only Obelmejias would ever become a champion (he eventually won the WBA 168 championship from Chong Pal Park and lost it in his first defense). Was Hagler's reign "much" to you?

To me, they were both impressive reigns; they did not duck anyone and fought every top challenger to come along. It wasn't their fault that they were head and shoulders better than anyone else in their division.