Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Quote Originally Posted by Fenster
I'm just giving you the facts, ICB.

Johnson was basically nothing but a S*** journeyman with lots of losses - Hopkins, Sosa, Kiwanuka, Ottke, Vanderpool, Branco, Sheika, Harmon, Gonzalez...all these guys found a way to beat him but Roy couldn't.

And to make matters 1000 times worse Roy got beat the F*** unconcious. They're just the facts.

If Roy was so good he would of never lost to a guy like that. Let alone get beat the F*** unconcious. They're just the facts.
So i suppose Tyson losing to journeyman Douglas or Tyson losing to Williams makes him bad and wasn't great in his prime ??

Jones had lost his reflexes speed and confidence thats pretty obvisious how many greats have lost to fighters when there past there prime ?? Robinson even lost Terry Downes so does that make him not good or not great in his prime ??

Jones just like many greats have lost to fighters they wouldn't of in there prime that still doesn't take away how amazing Jones was.
OK, so going by your reckoning.. Sheikas win over Johnson doesn't mean shit - cos there's excuses, Johnsons win over Roy doesn't mean shit - cos there's excuses...That can go on forever.

You can make excuses for anyones wins or losses.

Jones win over Toney doesn't mean shit.. Toney was weight funked. Jones win over Hopkins doesn't mean shit.. Hopkins was green. Excuses, excuses, excuses....