Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
Quote Originally Posted by Majesty
If Pavlik and Hopkins fought the only way Pavlik would win would be if he knocked out Hopkins.

Do any of us see that happening?
That's really silly man. Did JT clearly beat Hopkins the second time on points? Unanimously,most if not all agree,yes he did. How? He outworked him. Pavlik outworks them both. Pavlik could win(and would imo) by outworking Hopkins.
I actually disagree with you Gamo i thought 2nd Taylor vs Hopkins fight was just as controversial as the 1st meeting Hopkins was slighty more active than he was in 1st fight and landed 41 more power punches than Taylor i thought Hopkins won.

And i don't know what you mean by Taylor outworking Hopkins.

Overall punches.

Taylor threw 391 landed 124.

Hopkins threw 371 landed 130.

Power punches.

Taylor threw 182 landed 60.

Hopkins threw 240 landed 101.
Ouch



Okay... Although were not all coming to the same conclusion as far as the outcome goes. I get the impression that were all on the same page with regards to what both guys are capable of and what they need to do to win.

Generally i feel that 'Hopkins by UD' is a logical and safe prediction to make. Its a prediction that makes perfect sense based on what we can take as fact.

Speaking of facts Im guilty of making 3 key assumptions that lead me to believeing Pavlik will win.

These are:

1. Hopkins will show his age
(Although i must disagree with Preme about the Winky fight. I thought his holding, although out of character and excessive, was all part of the 'mugging' process between two point scoring fighters... If you can't take my word for it, just look at Ricky Hatton )

2. Pavlik will stay hungry and keep throwing
Even though he'll be made to look amaturish

3. Pavlik will hit Hopkins cleanly
Now this is based on 1 & 2 and of course is the easiest to discount as Hopkins is never hit cleanly (As LeftHook better explained) but don't forget those body shots