B Hop interview(very good read)

[Fenster]

If Pavlik and Hopkins fought the only way Pavlik would win would be if he knocked out Hopkins.

Do any of us see that happening?

That's really silly man. Did JT clearly beat Hopkins the second time on points? Unanimously,most if not all agree,yes he did. How? He outworked him. Pavlik outworks them both. Pavlik could win(and would imo) by outworking Hopkins.

I actually disagree with you Gamo i thought 2nd Taylor vs Hopkins fight was just as controversial as the 1st meeting Hopkins was slighty more active than he was in 1st fight and landed 41 more power punches than Taylor i thought Hopkins won.

And i don't know what you mean by Taylor outworking Hopkins.

Overall punches.

Taylor threw 391 landed 124.

Hopkins threw 371 landed 130.

Power punches.

Taylor threw 182 landed 60.

Hopkins threw 240 landed 101.

Firstly,stop going by compubox EVERY SINGLE TIME! When I watch the fight the first time,I try to ignore/pay minimal attention to compubox,their stats are decieving(watch the Spinks Taylor fight where JT magically lands more punches in a round,which to the naked eye,he landed nothing clean and nowhere as many as compubox states)

Secondly,those stats are DEFINITELY decieving. Hopkins may very well have landed all those punches more,but the majority of those punches came in the last 4-5 rounds. JT consistently threw punches all throughout the fight,Hopkins let his hands go much more but only in the later rounds,ergo,the misleading stats. JT took the earlier rounds,Hopkins took a few of the later rounds via bigger margins.

Finally,you are the ONLY person on this board I have seen dispute the fact that Hopkins lost the second fight. No-one,not even WACKO,the BIGGEST Hopkins fan on this board disputes it. I understand you mean well but you should not try to nit pick at points allllll the time.And don't ALWAYS rely on compubox,it's useful in some instances but certainly not here.

Good post, CC.

Compubox is just a couple of guys sitting rinside, pressing buttons when they deem a punch has landed. They can be VERY wrong and VERY misleading.

In a fight like Taylor vs Hopkins where one punch was landed at a time it wouldn't of been that hard to tell whos landing what Fenster so i would say punchstats were pretty accurate all im trying to say is that the second fight was just as close as the first and i brought up punchstats because i doubt El Gamo would take my word for it about Taylor not outworking Hopkins all i see was a very boring fight with both men not doing alot and one punch getting landed at a time i wasn't disppointed Taylor got the decision but imo Hopkins won and i thought 2nd fight was just as close as the first fight thats all im saying.

You shouldn't keep putting so much faith in punchstats. You've been posting the funkers all over the shop.

Two plums sitting ringside pushing buttons whenever they THINK a punch has landed is no different to a judge choosing the winner of a round based on who he THINKS won the round.