Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain
Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie
Na i totally disagree. When a fighter nods/ shakes head/ winks at corner you know its his choice to quit. A submission of sorts.

My example would be Ray olivera agianst Hatton

Definately NOT Castillo v Hatton
no actually he had no choice, if he would of been able to get up do you think the fight would of turned out any different. eric had no choice he knew it thats why he made no effort. a fighting quiting is more like tyson on his stole, if you watch when the fight was done with and eric finally can get up, he almost falls back down but the ref hellps him.


Na seriously, i see the ref escorting Morales but all good refs do that. Dont know about the 'he almost falls back down' part though

You know what, upon re-watching that fight (without focusing heavily on the fact that Morales was completely shot) if Morales had of held back in that fight, not being so wreckless... He might of conned Manny out of a win.

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