Road block to JMM v Manny2: $$$$$

[El Gamo]

Bhop, Winky, heck Oscar, MAB, Paq have all taken fights where they were not expected to win and earned the right to be marquee fighters. JMM is a good fighter but not an elite, he will when he fights and beats Paq. He will be in the money! Do not blame Paq only if the fight does not happen, the pressure should be on JMM to make the fight. He needs it more.

He's not elite? In what sense? Becuase I'm pretty sure JMM is on like a high % of P4P lists.

Personally...I think that they both should get the even money split.

I also think that there's a bit of fear coming from both camps & nothing anyone says will change my mind until the dotted lines are signed.

Money should not get in the way here. This fight makes a boat-load of sense & it sure as S*** could be marketed to make an a**-load of money.

Hello. I am new to this forum. I registered after reading this thread.

Anyway, I disagree that Marquez should get even money with Pac. Purse split should be at least 70-30 or 60-40 in favor of Pac. Why? Because Pac is the bigger draw. Do you see people lining up and challenging Marquez? NO. With Pac, people who have called-out Pac included Casamayor, JMM, Sotto, Joan Guzman, Valero, Katisidis, etc. Clearly then, Pacquiao is the bigger draw, and thus, deserves more money. It is the same reason why De la Hoya got a bigger purse than Mayweather although Mayweather was the pound-for-pound king. I fail to see why you guys missed this point!

If Pac doesn't fight JMM, he can still get multi-million dollar purses fighting any of the challengers mentioned above. Can Marquez do the same? NO. If JMM can accept $50,000 purse fighting a championship fight (because NO PROMOTER wanted to bid on the fight: read JMM is not saleable), why is he demanding EVEN money with Pacquiao?

It doesn't make sense and Pac knows it. When Pac fought Morales the first and second time, he got LESS money than Morales. Pac took the fight with no complaints. JMM should do the same.

This is an outdated statement. JMM is no longer that guy he was a few years back. He's the legitimate champ and PAC knows that


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Yeah hahaha.. this is a hot topic... it made me register just to post here... hehe

Anyway, it is NOT a question of being champion, unfortunately. Being champion doesn't necessarily bring in the paying public to watch fights. A non-title fight between Pac and MAB is a case in point.

Boxing is a business. If I were JMM, I would accept even a 70-30 share in favor of Pac. That would be more than any of my previous prize purses anyway. Then he can get an opportunity to beat Pac, IF HE REALLY WANTS it. If he wins, then a rematch will get him more money. The only reason I think JMM wants a bigger prize is because he is afraid this might mean the end of his career if he loses to Pac. Because of JMM loses, there will be no rematch. He loses the belts. And nobody would watch his boring fights after that.

The only reason I think JMM wants a bigger prize is because he is afraid this might mean the end of his career if he loses to Pac.

Erm,forgive me if I'm wrong,but wasn't the first fight a draw? And didn't most think JMM won?



And nobody would watch his boring fights after that.

Jmm's fights with MAB,Terdsak,Jaca were more exciting than Pac's recent fights. They were exciting fullstop.I'm presuming you have not seen these fights?

Hi El Gamo,

How many PAYING public watched JMMs fights against Terdsak, and Jaca? BUTTS ON SEATS! SHOW ME THE MONEY!!! Now, compare that with the latest Pac versus MAB fight.

If you think JMM won the first fight with Pac, fine. I don't want to argue with that. But that isn't the point of my responses. If he is not afraid, TAKE THE FIGHT, regardless of the purse.

Hello.

I'll say it again: Manny has just as much if not more to prove by fighting JMM. Why doesn't MANNY take the FIGHT regardless of the PURSE? Is Manny AFRAID?

El Gamo, we are going around in circles. This is what you are saying:

1) JMM is the belt-holder. He beat Pac the first time they met (according to you). Manny must fight Marquez to prove he is better.

All your arguments doesn't translate to greater prize purses if you have been reading my responses. Other champions in the other boxing divisions from flyweight to heavyweight can also claim this but they DON'T GET MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR purses. Why is JMM any different?

Manny isn't afraid. His managers are SMART. They know who brings in the MONEY. They know who should get a bigger prize share. JMM is trying to outwit Manny's managers.

You keep changing your points. First you say JMM has something to prove(WHEN THE FIGHT WAS A DRAW SO MANNY HAS JUST AS MUCH TO PROVE) and your making too many points which are baseless.

Which champions are you referring to? Who is JMM's manager that he is trying to outwit Pac's manager?

Marquez definitely isn't just a good fighter. He's currently #3, right after Pacquiao, in RING Magazine's pound-for-pound list. #2 vs #3 pound-for-pound, c'mon, can we ask for anything better?!

Exactly.

My point is simple. It is not about WHO HAS THE BELTS, WHO BEATS WHO, WHO IS POUND-FOR-POUND. It is about who brings BUTTS ON SEATS.

Pac can ignore JMM. He can still have mega-buck fights with other fighters. In contrast, nobody is lining up to fight JMM for big moolah... Doesn't that SPEAK FOR ITSELF on who is the bigger draw?? You have conveniently ignored this.

I repeated this several times already in my previous posts.

SUre,Manny can fight other fighters than JMM. Valero. David Diaz.They do wonders for Manny's legacy Those guys are willing to take less. If you want to see those fights more, then that tells me alot about your boxing fan credentials. All boxing fans want to see the best fights. We want to see who is the best. We fans want this fight,JMM wants this fight.

Honestly,on a side note,I never want to see any Manny fans dissing Mayweather being a money grabber,fighting for the money etc ever again. All your points are coming down to is JMM does not deserve the $$4 so he should not get the fight as opposed to they should make the split,both are getting big $$$ and we get to see who is the best.