Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
Quote Originally Posted by zzz
Having suffered that injury on more than one occasion, I can guarantee you that in no way was Hopkins' shoulder disclocated. He would not have been able to continue the way he did. Separated maybe, more likely sprained.
The other fight he was injured in was when he got pushed out of the ring by Mills Lane against Robert Allen.

I don't think a hard a** like Hopkins would fake an injury for sympathy. He was hurt plain & simple & did'nt make much of a career out of faking injuries...& he did'nt have the same injury. Allen & Hopkins were in a clench & Lane pushed between the two fighters to seperate them, Hopkins fell backwards through the ropes all the way to the concrete floor. He wacked his hip & ankle on the way down to the floor. Pretty long fall...however tall a ring is...four or five feet maybe?

When Hopkins injured his shoulder against Echols he was on the floor for almost three and a half minutes I think & then passed on winning the fight over a foul. That says a hell of a lot to me. Now, if you couple that with the fact that he continued the bout injured, dropped Echols in the 7th, & then stopped him in the 10th round...that goes a long way by stating that Hopkins truly proved what a great fighter & champion he was.

Anyways...your leg is a long way from your shoulder...that's my point. I don't know of another fight that he was injured in other than some head butts or the like against Mercado.

People may not like Hopkins...but he were'nt no chump.

I'm not sure what you are saying here Wacko. I like Hopkins, he's no faker and there is no doubt his shoulder was in a lot of pain, but it wasn't dislocated. If it was, then the ball would have been right out of the socket. He was punching with both hands later in the fight, and what I am saying is that is not possible with a dislocated shoulder, a dislocated shoulder means the the arm is basically useless. He very likely would not have been able to use it even as a guard. A sprain can sill be painful but you would srill have some use of the arm.

cheers.