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Quote Originally Posted by OwnedByPacstraightleft
Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
For those that want to continue the argument of Evander Holyfield being an all time great heavyweight........................



Do you know what Holyfield's record as a HEAVYWEIGHT is??






































24 wins
9 losses (that's not a type-o, he really does have 9 losses )
2 draws




Wow! 24-9-2





Has there ever been a more overrated fighter in the history of boxing??

Nope.


















































Hail Sultan!
If Holyfield is that overrated what does that make Mike Tyson or Lennox Lewis ??

What does it say about the following all time great heavyweights that beat this "legend?"


John Ruiz

Michael Moorer

Getting TKO'd by James Toney

Larry Donald

Chris Byrd

Sultan Ibragimov



In case you didn't notice................

That list (I omitted Riddick Bowe because I feel that he actually was an all time great heavyweight in his prime) isn't exactly a list of top heavyweights, yet they all managed to beat up on Holyfield.






Tyson was incredibly shot after his prison stint. People who actually follow the sport (not bandwagon jumpers like you) know this.



And Lennox Lewis (who I have also said is overrated many times in the past) accounted for 1 of his draws and 1 of his astonishing 9 losses, so I don't see where you're headed with that.




John Ruiz = 1-1-1 with Ruiz Holyfield was 38+

Michael Moorer = Had heart problems in first Moorer fight and injured his shoulder everyone knows this and he gave Moorer a beating in the rematch.

Getting TKO'd by James Toney = Holyfield was 40

Larry Donald = Holyfield was 42

Chris Byrd = Holyfield was 40

Sultan Ibragimov = Holyfield was 44


All of these losses were when Holyfield was past his prime this is just classic case of being old and past your prime except the Moorer loss but there was legit reason he lost and Moorer still only won by MD i don't see what this proves ?? all you have done is bring up losses when he was well past his prime this can happen to any great fighter.
I'll Make No excuses fo losses to L.donald and C.byrd,Those were just Humiliating Imo but both were totally wrong style match-ups and dumb fights to sign.about 1st Moorer fight REMEMBER well documented legit valve problems found afterwards .also Moorer was Put on his Butt In 2nd round And All 3 judges scored it 10-9...not 10-8 as it should have been.that was the difference in retaining title or losing it.Its a wash anyway because believe it or not Moorer had skills and was avenged 10 fold in a mugging.HolYfield Is a Legend who stayed around to long chasing belts he never needed in the first place to prove his greatness.