Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
I'm sorry to intervene but this debate has gone off topic!! and awful statements are being made:

Mayweather better than Duran P4P(tip look at who Duran fought in each weight class then compare it to Mayweather)?? Mayweather's resume being compared to SRR at welterweight(just because YOU don't know the names of the fighters at WW does not mean they dont "stand out" etc)

Those are just some points I've come across that must minus points etc. Those are absurd shocking statements. Whoever the judge is needs to call a halt to this fight,Bruce has won this.
Wooah hang on a minute I'm also a judge in this thing and folks I can say now I'm going all Dick Flaherty here but I saw ICE winning this.

We have to remember what the original question was here and that is 'Is the current welterweight era the best ever?'

To my mind Bruce as eloquent as some of his rebutalls were never actually addressed this core question, preferring instead to launch a personal attack on Floyd Mayweather.

Ics got dragged off course as well but he managed to bring it back to the central question that was ultimately the whole point of the debate.

The question was is this era the best ever and brucelee never even directly answered the question.

Ice did, attempting to show that Ray Robinsons welterweight era had less big stars than the present and Bruce never succesfully countered that imo. In fact he virtually conceded as much when he said that Robinson was so dominant he overshadowed everybody else.

Reading through bruce's posts again and time and again he went back to challenging Floyd's resume, which just wasn't the question.

Don't get me wrong, I thought Ice was sloppy at times and he'll need to tighten up his debating defense if he's to hold on to his title in future bouts but I think by making more of an attempt to answer the original question he did enough to take the bout and retain his belt.
Oh my bad,it went off topic,I thought this was about Mayweather's resume?? I saw the original question but thought the debate changed at some point? Dam,well Bruce,you lost this big time then because you just kept talking about Mayweather!!

I still think Ice lost points for the Mayweather better than Duran P4P but other than that,he did well. Although it still went WAY off topic. WTF did SRR "ducking" Burley have to do with anythng??

REF,you need to keep a firmer grasp on things!
Well a pat on the back to me I think for my own debating skills. With just a single post I convinced the other judge who had just tried to call a halt to the fight for the battering Ice was taking to completely reverse his decision and say the other guy lost big time

Nobody is going to want to fight me now