Frozen I am starting to think you know nothing about boxing first off you say Magarito is not very good boxer but you think Zab is the best when he losses all the time and has not won against a good fighter in a long fucking time and then you have the guts to say Evander was never that great to begin with well I have to say your knowledge is lacking my friend and Holyfield no doubt a top 15 all time geatest heavyweight of all time and with wins over old Foreman and Holmes, Moore, Tyson, and Bowie and held the belt more times then anyone at heavy he is no doubt a great heavy weight champion and as far as Sultan goes or what ever his name is he is lucky Evander was 44 years of age because if it would of happen with the young version of Evander your boy toy Sultan who could not even beat Austin would of got knocked the fuck out and he is lucky he fought a old Evander