Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
Quote Originally Posted by Master
dragging out a war for the sake of money seems sick, do the lost lives of soldiers mean nothing to these people!
...War usually is caused by money

Name a war and it started because of money

Revolutions: USA, Mexico, Russia

Civil War - Different economies in the north and south along with a basically 50/50 split in regards to what policy should be. Slavery was only used as a reason for war in order for the North to recruit more soldiers by promising them freedom.

World War I - The Austro-Hungarians and Ottomans fighting to maintain their relevance, the Germans and Russians fighting to prove their power in Europe and affect trade and policy of other established European powers.

World War II - Germany fighting to overcome the economic burden of losing WWI, Japan trying to take over areas so they could make use of their resources as Japan has limited natural resources

Korea and Vietnam were POLICY wars....and they started due to fear of Communism spreading which boils down to relocation of wealth which isn't a good thing.....ever

Hence War is usually about money only 'money' also means freedoms and way of life and health and so on but it's just under the big umbrella of money.

With Iraq and Afghanistan, having a hand in the middle east and easing the militant feelings there we have partners to trade with and help grow. They sell us oil and we sell them goods in return.

And the terrorists are just jealous that they aren't in control of the oil so THEY can have the money....which it's not like Bin Laden is starving, everyone has money over there except the Palestinians who are persona non grata unless it's to serve as a cause of why to hate Israel. Bin laden would trade with the US if he was in power, as would Al Sadr...they are no different than the Saudi Royal Family. Oil is the only thing that makes them relevant on a global scale and therefore some people want to hijack it and have the world beg for mercy, which won't happen because there are other places with oil and everyone will buy from them until the middle east got in gear and started selling reasonably.


....and hence the saying "the spoils of war"
That and they attacked us 4 times before september 11th and the clinton and first bush administration didn't want to be "that guy". Oil was the reason we didn't go to war in the 90's, it's not the reason we went to war in the 00's. Don't look up flight 93 and all the bs they try to spin on it, look up flight 800. July 31st 1996 (haven't heard the date or year in awhile so I am unsure on them but the time is dead on) 8:31pm just of the coast of new york. Seeing as you're equally as disgusted with the conspiracy theorists lyle, it's something you'd like to find out about. While you're on that, go ahead and look up oklahoma city alittle closer too.............. Aside from oklahoma city and the first world trade center attack, when has there been a domestic large scale car bombing? There hasn't. It just seems like convient timing as these same tactics were being used overseas on american embassies. The oversea embassies were all bin laden but he didn't have anything to do with all the american attacks untill 9/11. They were all direct orders from iraq's government.

Palestinians have a legitimite gripe. They were thrown out of their home because the powerful countries of the world felt bad for the jews post halocaust and figured they would give them the holy land to cheer them up. The extremists are wrong on all counts but a majority are not extremists. If you're going to show sympathy and make rule changes for mexicans coming here illegally "searching for a better life" then be consistant and show the same caring towards americans whose jobs were outsourced (no domestic good comes from outsourcing, any belief otherwise is stupidity) and palestinians. Removing american jobs from americans makes more money as does bringing in cheap labor from over the boarder. Giving people back their homeland just doesn't make financial sense as there is already a stable ally in place there in countrol of resources . It is about money no matter how you slice it but i'll remind you that I don't see any other governments in the world jumping to right the injustices of the world that hold no profit. They're all the same no one is better than any other. No country is truly allied with any other country in the world, they are just business partners.