Whats all the hype about calzaghe????

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WOW. I step out to lunch and 20+ posts have been made. Take it easy on the rookie guys

Ok Maybe bumb was to harsh of a word. Lets just say Lacy was far from top tier and more than a little green at the time.

Eubank was well passed it.

Bika, Salem.....who?

Robin Ried might be the only one that qualifies and he didn't do that well did he.

Bika, Salem, & Reid were all ranked contenders & were available for Joe to face at that time.

Reid also held a belt prior to fighting Joe & had defended it a few times prior to facing Joe. The fight he lost was a step up to get to Joe. He lost it. Can't recall who it was against.

S*** happens.

I like to point something out. My post was more a show of support to a new member that was getting bombarded. I always put a lot of stock on long reigning champions and give Joe all respect for defending his title so successfully for so long.

But I stand by what I said. He has yet to fight a true threat to his throne till now. I'm going to settle this with two simple questions.

Nothing wrong with supporting a member...but by his own admission he stated that he worded his post rather harshly or wrong.

If you stop to think about it...he got replied to immediately & forcefully because he was ripping into many fans favorite fighters.

You have to expect responses that you are not going to like when you do that.

1) What has Mikkel Kessler done to be considered a world class fighter?

2) Is Mikkel Kessler the biggest challange in Joe Calzaghe's career?

1: Kessler has beaten top opposition & has the other 2 belts. He is the #1 ranked contender.

That's an easy answer to a question that I am shocked you asked.

2: Not the biggest...but he's stiff opposition. Eubank, Lacy, Gimenez, & many other fighters in their times were pretty big tests.

He rates the biggest chance due to his youth & power.

Bika, Salem, & Reid were all ranked contenders & were available for Joe to face at that time.

Reid also held a belt prior to fighting Joe & had defended it a few times prior to facing Joe. The fight he lost was a step up to get to Joe. He lost it. Can't recall who it was against.

S*** happens.

I totally disagree no one had even heard of Bika before Calzaghe fight and Salem had no wins against top opposition he lost to Veit, Echols, Salem was never that good even prospect Bute done away with Salem in 8.

Reid was a hot and cold fighter he didn't look impressive getting outboxed by 42 year old Sugar Boy Malinga before Calzaghe fight and i never thought Reid was World Class anyway i always thought he was a step below world class.

That's where you are wrong. You can't say "no one had even heard of Bika before Calzaghe fight" just because you hadn't or didn't think he was a big enough name. That's been a blanket statement of Calzaghe's detractors & it's just wrong...no offense...it's silly.

Salem had held the NABO, NABF, IBF, or NBA or one of those belts obscure inter-dimensional titles & was a contender for one of the big belts at the time...trust me babe...he was ranked somewhere...I'll bust out tape at the house & see if I can find it.

The fact remains that in their time & the time that Calzaghe dispatched them they were something & they had held titles, were ranked, & were fighting for straps. Viet & Echols were somebody's also. They produced some good scraps & were all ranked.

I hate to split hairs like this but the facts are that they were all contenders & game opposition when Joe battered them.

That's where you are wrong. You can't say "no one had even heard of Bika before Calzaghe fight" just because you hadn't or didn't think he was a big enough name. That's been a blanket statement of Calzaghe's detractors & it's just wrong...no offense...it's silly.

Wacko it wasn't just me i remember i was the first one the post up the news he was fighting Bika and everyone on this forum was saying Bika who ?? i wish i could find the thread so i can show you what i mean im not a Calzaghe hater im just telling you what i think.

Salem had held the NABO, NABF, IBF, or NBA or one of those belts obscure inter-dimensional titles & was a contender for one of the big belts at the time...trust me babe...he was ranked somewhere...I'll bust out tape at the house & see if I can find it.

He was mediocre all he was good at was being dirty fighter and he had quite a bit of power but thats it he was never any good Wacko.


The fact remains that in their time & the time that Calzaghe dispatched them they were something & they had held titles, were ranked, & were fighting for straps. Viet & Echols were somebody's also. They produced some good scraps & were all ranked.

I hate to split hairs like this but the facts are that they were all contenders & game opposition when Joe battered them.

I totally agree with this Wacko let me copy and paste what i said just a minute ago.

Even though Calzaghe's era has been weak there was no one really else to beat in his division he has beaten everyone over the last 10 years the only name he could of fought was Ottke who wanted nothing to do with Calzaghe so people have to take that into account.