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    Quote Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
    Quote Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
    The current lot of Cruiserweights are probably the best interms of depth in the division.
    Holyfield would beat them all apart from David Haye who would knock him out.
    I have to give you an SC for that comment.....Because to make that comment it tells me one of two things....Either you know nothing of CW div or Holyfield before his HW years OR...You are a big fan of Haye and are looking past boxing knowledge just to hype your guy up...either way it was a dumb a** comment.....

    At CW Holyfield was in his absolute prime and a menace....Haye would not even make it a competitive bout for more then 3 or so rounds
    3 rounds come on- let's not get silly. My comment was maybe tongue in cheek but at the sametime I was watching Holyfields very impressive march through the Cruiserweights He beat and I watched at the time; Tillman and Rickey Parkey etc - he beat them impressively but they are hardly the stuff of legends.

    David Haye has judgement day against Mormeck coming up. Mormeck is a worthy champion and very good fighter - if Haye wins that which is not certain then I rest my case.

    You gave me a sad click for an opinion - fine upto you, my opinion is not yours and in life you have to accept that others will not have the same opinion.
    3 rounds come on- let's not get silly. My comment was maybe tongue in cheek but at the sametime I was watching Holyfields very impressive march through the Cruiserweights He beat and I watched at the time; Tillman and Rickey Parkey etc - he beat them impressively but they are hardly the stuff of legends.

    Dwight Muhammad Qawi was a legend he was the first man to drop Michael Spinks and gave him tough arguement Holyfield beat legend like Qawi in only 11 pro fights and in rematch destroyed him in 4 for you to even say Haye would beat Holyfield is absurd Haye has shown suspect chin and suspect stamina in the past he wouldn't last 5 rounds with Holyfield a 40 year old Thompson took Haye's best shots and stopped Haye in 5 what makes you think Holyfield who had one of the best chins ever in the sport of boxing can't take Haye's shots ??

    David Haye has judgement day against Mormeck coming up. Mormeck is a worthy champion and very good fighter - if Haye wins that which is not certain then I rest my case.

    Beating Mormeck doesn't mean he could beat Holyfield don't be silly Mormeck isn't in Holyfield's class.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lords Gym

    Evander at his best would hold his own against anyone at Cruiserweight or Heavyweight in any era . My opinion Evander is #1 Cruiser of all time, and one of the Top 5 Heavy's of all time . Evander made everyone at HW fight better. opponents came in correct, they knew they had to be at their very best condition to have a chance, that’s respect. when you can make people around you better, just by being who you are. .. that’s something special. !
    I agree with all your comments LG except Holyfield being top 5.

    Larry Holmes
    Joe Louis
    Muhammad Ali
    Jack Johnson
    George Foreman

    I think these 5 fighters are all rated higher than Holyfield at Heavyweight but no doubt Holyfield was great Heavyweight and exciting to watch Holyfield really got me into the sport and i thank him for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
    The current lot of Cruiserweights are probably the best interms of depth in the division.
    Holyfield would beat them all apart from David Haye who would knock him out.
    HUH I Love a good sense of humor but that is lunacy.
    Holyfield at cruiser would calculate and Ball up hayes like he was dirty laundry.I like Hayes but come on .....

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    Default Re: How would 80's Evandor Holyfield do against the current Cruiserweights

    I think a prime Holyfield could have given any other P4P Heavyweight at their prime a good fight and beat many of them.

    He was that good.


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    Default Re: How would 80's Evandor Holyfield do against the current Cruiserweights

    Well ice the other name i put above Holyfield would have to be Lennox i think he would of beaten Holyfeild when ever they fought to be honest pulse he was a more dominate heavyweight Holyfield had his ups and downs more often then Lennox Lewis had more ups and down and between him and George it is a pretty close to me who is at the spot they both were pretty equal in accomplishments in my view of things

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    Default Re: How would 80's Evandor Holyfield do against the current Cruiserweights

    holyfield beats everyone of them in his prime right now. haye would get ruined, i think prime mormeck and enzo mac would give him his toughest tests...


    but to be fair enzo and haye havnt hit their primes yet.

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    Default Re: How would 80's Evandor Holyfield do against the current Cruiserweights

    Holyfield-Mormeck would be a good fight, not now of course, but they had similar styles. Would be a war but Holy would win.
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    Default Re: How would 80's Evandor Holyfield do against the current Cruiserweights

    I think people give Evander more credit than he deserves at cruiser. There were a few guys that wobbled him at that weight. I felt Quawi won their first, but it ruined him because he was the older man. Holyfield wasn't some invincible man at cruiserweight, he was still fine tuning his skills. He didn't reach his peak until heavyweight. However, there haven't been very many good cruiserweights especially right now. Evander would beat anyone out there, but I think some of these guys could stun him before getting steam rolled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth
    I think people give Evander more credit than he deserves at cruiser. There were a few guys that wobbled him at that weight. I felt Quawi won their first, but it ruined him because he was the older man. Holyfield wasn't some invincible man at cruiserweight, he was still fine tuning his skills. He didn't reach his peak until heavyweight. However, there haven't been very many good cruiserweights especially right now. Evander would beat anyone out there, but I think some of these guys could stun him before getting steam rolled.
    I kind of have to agree with you. The majority of his career has been at heavyweight and while he was a great cruiser, he wasnt there very long. He really only fought 2 great cruiserweights in DeLeon and Quai. And they werent necessarily at their best either. I have no doubt that if he stayed there longer he would have continued dominating but he moved up. I think guys like Mormeck as I mentioned above and even Bell could give him some problems though I think he would beat them.
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    Default Re: How would 80's Evandor Holyfield do against the current Cruiserweights

    he kills all of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth
    I think people give Evander more credit than he deserves at cruiser. There were a few guys that wobbled him at that weight. I felt Quawi won their first, but it ruined him because he was the older man. Holyfield wasn't some invincible man at cruiserweight, he was still fine tuning his skills. He didn't reach his peak until heavyweight. However, there haven't been very many good cruiserweights especially right now. Evander would beat anyone out there, but I think some of these guys could stun him before getting steam rolled.
    Who wobbled Holyfield at Cruiserweight ?? the only time i remember Holyfield being hurt was in 1st Qawi fight but he was never wobbled and you had Qawi winning that fight how ?? you have to remember Holyfield only had 11 pro fights when he fought Qawi in 1st fight and yes he did have some troubles but Qawi was legendary at Cruiserweight so it was great victory for Holyfield for only having 11 pro fights and in the rematch when Holyfield had bit more experience he destroyed Qawi in 4 and no one had ever done that to Qawi before at Cruiserweight so i don't see what you mean with some of your other comments like Holyfield didn't have the chin at Cruiserweight ?? he took Qawi's best shots and come right back at him your ability to take a punch does not change putting on weight unless its in unhealthy way so i don't really understand what you mean when you say Holyfield didn't have the chin at Cruiserweight i also don't understand your comment about Holyfield not having the defense like he had at Heavyweight ?? Holyfield has never had great defense he has always been there to hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Preme
    holyfield beats everyone of them in his prime right now. haye would get ruined, i think prime mormeck and enzo mac would give him his toughest tests...


    but to be fair enzo and haye havnt hit their primes yet.
    You think that Enzo Maccrinelli could test Evander Holyfield ? Enzo has limited boxing ability and a glass JAW .
    Just because he has the WBO JOKE tilte and is a warren fighter doesnt mean he is actually world class .

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    Default Re: How would 80's Evandor Holyfield do against the current Cruiserweights

    Is this some kind of a sick joke. Hands down Holyfield would clean this division out.

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    Default Re: How would 80's Evandor Holyfield do against the current Cruiserweights

    holyfield beats them all. he was the greatest cruiserweight of all time when he moved up in weight and he still is today

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    Default Re: How would 80's Evandor Holyfield do against the current Cruiserweights

    well baring a 'phatnom punch' KO loss he would beat them all....some of them on the same night.
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