Quote Originally Posted by Preme
Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO
we can't forfeit a tournament just to get rid of Mclaren wether it's good for England or not


I think we are missing the point with Israel and the fact they may do us a favour - nothing to play for, Avram Grant connections at Chelsea (owned by a certain billionaire Russian). Tal Ben Haim in defence - uhhh who does he play foe again. Oh yes a certain English team owned by a billionaire Russian.

A billionaire Russian who could offer anything to any country's football association...

I'm not suggesting anything here but I think we are fucked
in every single sport you ever play and fail in it always ends in blame the manager or in cricket the captain. Pathetic.
it's the nature of sport Preme - you'll understand that when you get a few more years under your belt

you welsh ? Isn't your manager getting the blame for your early world cup exit and didn't he resign - can't remember

The players are a lot to blame yes - but in history as with everything it's the leaders who take the blame and the ones who are axed or disposed of

now shut up