CC El Gamo very well put someone that points out that Pavlik is not just a head hunter and can get down to the body just as good and also i agree that a guy like Joe would be the guy to give Pavlik the most problems even more so then Hopkins and Kess might be good as well because he pretty solid fighter and has the power that could trouble Pavlik that would be a fight that i like to see be a pretty gory fight and i would love to see it