Kessler with some big talk !!

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Wow...this sounds reminiscent of Lacy prior to their match up...all talk.

Kessler better deliver once he steps through those ropes.

If he does...much love & respect to the new champion...if not...I hope everyone who thrashes Joe here has the balls to pay homage to the old champion after he's dispatched another #1 contender.

Win, lose, or draw...Joe's earned at the least that.

I like Calzaghe as a fighter and you have to respect a man who has been champion for so long...I don't care what people say about his comp as champ...he has fought some good name and you know what it doesn't matter how good you are there is always that chance of an off night where a guy you are better then by 200% could get the win...EG Chavez/Randall...Joe has avoided that...

My only real dislike of Calzaghe and the only thing I ever really fault him for is never wanting to leave home to fight...In fact he will do anything he can to stay home....other then two or so fights in Germany....I am sorry the whole he is champ why should he have to go anywhere crap does not fly with me....

EG all the talks with Roy Jones people....Calzaghe did not want to leave home to fight Jones and I do not care what anyone says....

People say you need to come to the champ if you want his title but when you are a guy like Jones who needs (or at the times) needed no title to show he was the man...you need come to him because when you are at that state of your career ( for either) you are fighting for legecy not belts...Jones is with out a doubt the bigger legecy...Calzaghe should have gone to Jones not the other way around....

Other then Calzaghe not wanting to venture from home I think he has been a great champ and is worthy of all the respect in the world....Anyone who denies Calzaghe is a great fighter or at minimum great champion is not talking with boxing knowledge he is talking out of his a**.......

With all that being said I hope Kessler knocks him on his a**

Daxx Im with you in the "hopes" department for Kessler but I give Calzaghe Props as well.

Jones said the same thing exactly when it came to venturing over the pond for credible challenges....Nigel Benn.....Darius Michalczewski.......S.Collins........Joe calzaghe Yeah,he probally would have dusted them(except Benn ) in the end but Saying you can do something and actually DOING something are different.With him it all came down to "they need me,I dont need (want) them"


BTW,Randall was not a fluke vs.Chavez.At his best Randall had the talent,Confidence and presence of mind to Beat the best.....Just look at the absolute Travesty in rematch.....Chavez knew it imo.

Agreed 100% on Jones not venturing to the other side of the pond...I remember the DM years when Jones was criticized for not going over to fight anyone there...I also criticized him during those years so the criticizim is not reserved for Calzaghe alone....

AS far as Chavez Randall I did not say it was a fluke I just said that eventually a guy you are better then will come along and win on the right night...it happens...Chavez/Randall was just the first example that came to mind...Randall was a good fighter just not as good a chavez in any way

Randall never got his just due against Chavez.
Daxx,I am not one to argue or throw out these inflamatory bombs just for a reaction But all I have to judge by is watching the 1st two fights until the original tapes Broke.
Lets be Clear....Overall without a doubt Looking at the context of there entire careers,Chavez was an all around More accomplished,consistent,and "better" fighter in regards to quality of opponents and overall ring record and dedication.Frankie "got clean" long enough to relize his tremendous skills and show that he was indeed a top championship caliber fighter.
He faltered and was proven weak against his toughfest of opponents...Addiction.
In my unbiased fair Opinion I think Randall had Chavez's Number.The first fight was one of the best displays of Boxing and ring general ship put on by an "underdog" against a living legend great I have ever witnessed.
I know what everyone said "chavez not training properly" "Chavez had too many Cerveza's" "Chavez Distracted by legal and personal Problems" But the bottom line is EVERYONE has Issues....thats Chavez problem.Randall put on a clinic and did not crumble capping it off with placing JCC neatly on his seat for the first time in his career.
The 2nd I believe Randall was on his way to a repeat OR possibly.....MAYBE....stopping Chavez..I know"LMAO...LOL " etc.I think it was a travesty and boarderline parlor trick the way Chavez Found a way out and "won" title back.For the 1st three rounds they stood in close and really traded big body shots.Both warned for low blows in 1st.The 2nd round saw Randall spear Chavez with that Powerful Straight right and Chavez was buckled bad and his nose Bloodied and come the 4th -7th Chavez actually turned Boxer and was backing up still landing good body but Randall showed no effects and fired off sharp punches.Chavez looked tired and discouraged.In the 8th on the inside with Chavez leading with head(A large portion of the night) ,Randall roles under after being clipped by right and the two collied.Cut above rt. eye.....Lane rules it Unintentional and deducts point.Doctor said he could go on...."You can go",Mills ask Doctor and Chavez "stop the fight?"Chavez Shakes his head forward saying "My head"( I dont speak Spanish but body language is universal) Dr.Homansky said If Chavez wanted to continue He probably would have let him. Chavez and King found a way to get belt back and did not pursue what should have been Immediate Rematch.It took TEN (10) years before Randall (fresh out of drug re-hab and relapse ) was given another shot....From what I saw twice In the complete context of Those two in the same ring IN Both Fights. Randall was just as good as Chavez....Without doubt. AND Chavez Knew It!! I apologize For highjacking thread and do tend to let passion and thoughts run on.Daxx Im not trying to one up you bro and respect your insight and opinion in these threads.These fights have stuck with me for Years and I needed To VENT .CC to you Daxx.