Prediction Contest: Opinion Poll

[Saddo]

Hey Saddo I agree with you completely.

But people asking for small changes isn't moaning. Everybody is grateful for all the work Boxing Gorilla does, it's just some people would like a couple of minor changes whilst others are happy with the ways things are.

Everybody's opinions should be valued as the contest is only as good as the people participating in it.

I know you didn't day this but saying you play for free so if you don't like it don't play isn't helpful or warranted.

Everything in life changes and develop and as this contest (hopefully) grows more and more the participants may decide that some changes will make things run even better.

It's not an ungrateful attitude or a slate at Boxing Gorilla or anyone else.

If nobody ever wanted anything to change we'd still all be living in huts made of straw and animal dung after all.

small changes are fine a total overhaul is fine but if it is because they didnt read the rules before playing then that is i'm afraid moaning

but what do you want changed?

[Kev]

Hey Saddo I agree with you completely.

But people asking for small changes isn't moaning. Everybody is grateful for all the work Boxing Gorilla does, it's just some people would like a couple of minor changes whilst others are happy with the ways things are.

Everybody's opinions should be valued as the contest is only as good as the people participating in it.

I know you didn't day this but saying you play for free so if you don't like it don't play isn't helpful or warranted.

Everything in life changes and develop and as this contest (hopefully) grows more and more the participants may decide that some changes will make things run even better.

It's not an ungrateful attitude or a slate at Boxing Gorilla or anyone else.

If nobody ever wanted anything to change we'd still all be living in huts made of straw and animal dung after all.

small changes are fine a total overhaul is fine but if it is because they didnt read the rules before playing then that is i'm afraid moaning

but what do you want changed?

To be honest on reflection I'm fairly happy with things the they are. I think maybe the points system is a little bit too in favour of KO victories, i.e 15 points for getting the correct round whilst only a 2 point loss from 6 if you get it wrong.

By contrast it's the same 6 points for a win, with 7 for a UD or 10 for SD or MD but get it wrong and you drop 4 points and get just two.

I think you should get 4 if you make a points prediction and get it wrong rather than just 2 as it's out of line with the KO's.

Regarding the change of opponent now I know the rule it's not a problem to me. But it does reward players who have more time on their hands and are able to get onto the website all week round as opposed to others who maybe wouldn't have time to check to see if a change of opponent has occured and whether they should alter their picks.

For those people with such things as a social life outside of Saddo's then it's probably fairer that any change of opponent fights are voided.

As I said before I'd also like to see more domestic fights but I guess that everyone feels that way wherever they are. And you are quite right about BG obviously not having the knowledge to know which fights in every country are going to be competitive.

Overall I'm happy and would continue to play with or without any rule changes.

[Trainer Monkey]

Bilbo,if its any consolation,I just check their stats,their records and make my picks
Yeah I make them with an understanding of how things are supposed to work in the game,but thats cause I know the game
Even then it doesnt allways come out right
The heavyweight at Raley field was supposed to have an early night of it,he did,but in totally the wrong fashion

[Kev]

Oh one more thing I should say is that the biggest compliment we can possibly pay BG this year is that like a great boxing referee we havn't noticed him at all.

I take it for granted that the new fight selections will be up on a Sunday night, and that after every weekend everybody will have their totals added up correctly, that the league table will be accurate and timely updated and that the thread will be locked just before any fights take place to avoid cheating.

BG has managed to achieve this week in week out thus ensuring the competition has run smoothly and without a hitch.

You know something is going well when people can afford to criticise the minor points like slight rule changes rather than having to make vast number of 'You got my scores wrong!' or 'You forgot to lock the thread!' type posts.

He's done a great job!

[Kev]

Bilbo,if its any consolation,I just check their stats,their records and make my picks
Yeah I make them with an understanding of how things are supposed to work in the game,but thats cause I know the game
Even then it doesnt allways come out right
The heavyweight at Raley field was supposed to have an early night of it,he did,but in totally the wrong fashion

Lol, actually as I said above I'm really not arguing for any rule changes myself, if people like it the way it is then I am more than happy to keep playing with things as they are.

I just don't think people who suggest change should be labelled as ungrateful and told to sod off as some people seem to imply!

But its been a fun competition and although I've given up on catching the two runaway leaders I am still very much battling to steal your third place spot.

Keep an eye behind you cos this little hobbit is charging through!

[Trainer Monkey]

Bilbo,if its any consolation,I just check their stats,their records and make my picks
Yeah I make them with an understanding of how things are supposed to work in the game,but thats cause I know the game
Even then it doesnt allways come out right
The heavyweight at Raley field was supposed to have an early night of it,he did,but in totally the wrong fashion

Lol, actually as I said above I'm really not arguing for any rule changes myself, if people like it the way it is then I am more than happy to keep playing with things as they are.

I just don't think people who suggest change should be labelled as ungrateful and told to sod off as some people seem to imply!

But its been a fun competition and although I've given up on catching the two runaway leaders I am still very much battling to steal your third place spot.

Keep an eye behind you cos this little hobbit is charging through!

Im starting to lose hope on catching those two,hell I have the most single week achievments and every time I pull close,it somehow goes south on me.

[Saddo]

Oh one more thing I should say is that the biggest compliment we can possibly pay BG this year is that like a great boxing referee we havn't noticed him at all.

I take it for granted that the new fight selections will be up on a Sunday night, and that after every weekend everybody will have their totals added up correctly, that the league table will be accurate and timely updated and that the thread will be locked just before any fights take place to avoid cheating.

BG has managed to achieve this week in week out thus ensuring the competition has run smoothly and without a hitch.

You know something is going well when people can afford to criticise the minor points like slight rule changes rather than having to make vast number of 'You got my scores wrong!' or 'You forgot to lock the thread!' type posts.

He's done a great job!

or maybe drop the points on the KO round picks that are wrong to make it more of a gamble to pick rounds.

but saying that everyone has the same rules to play with so it is fair but point taken

[Trainer Monkey]

Trust me,this is way fairer then the sport itself
At least we're all playing with the same set of rules

[Saddo]

Trust me,this is way fairer then the sport itself
At least we're all playing with the same set of rules

correct

[No Contest]

If you have problems....dont play. You didnt pay any money to play and frankly I think you guys a being whiny. If there was say a 2 dollar entrance fee and winner gets the pot(idea) then you can complain. IMO just comes off as unappreciative. By the way thanks again BG, your doing a great job. All the math and he hasnt messed up my score yet.

No, I didn't pay any money to play, but neither did you. Saddo gets more money from advertisers if he has more traffic. The contest is designed to bring in more posters. So essentially, we are paying Saddo by playing this game! In return he gives us the site to play on. Irregardless, you're argument makes no sense. Why would you want to have rules that don't make any logical sense when some posters are only 1 point behind others and thus, the one point rule I'm complaining about could make all the difference in whether or not me or any other poster wins a prize. This means the contest is slanted, making it unintentionally corrupt.

BG works hard for us to even have this competition for no pay, but we need to get it right or there's absolutely no point in having prizes.

Huh Your crying over a 1 point policy that everyone has to live with if you read the rules. How can a rule be "unfair" if we all have to deal with it. I predicted the round and ko on the Duddy fight(with Arron in mind) and got 1 point. Did I start bitching that he should have changed the fight earlier? No, I dealt with it like you should. Last minute switches happen all the time in boxing. What is your fix by the way? Illuminated and Bilbo, I didnt come away from your posts with any solutions. Your both little babies who when they arent winning begin to cry foul play. I think you guys are taking it a bit too seriously.

[WelshDevilRob]

I like the rules as they are. Picking the exact round for a KO is a gamble as you know that it's unlikely and your'll drop 2 points when it doesn't happen. But the risk is upto the player and can also be a good way of getting you big points and back in contention.

I hope the rules don't change halfway through this competition as I don't think that is right. We all knew the rules (or should have) when we entered the competition. It's the individuals own fault if he/she couldn't take 5 minutes to read them but I believe the majority will have.

What works in alot of other places is picking the results by rounds 1-4, 5-8, 9-12 and points or draw.
2 points correct fighter extra 3 for correctly picking the segment. (TD comes under points).
But to be honest I prefer the scoring system here as it has more options.

Anyway the competition is still very competitive at this stage and there are many weeks still to go.

Thanks for your time and effort in running the show BG. (CC+)

[*Starlet*]

I'm happy with the way things are!

[Illuminated]

Huh Your crying over a 1 point policy that everyone has to live with if you read the rules. How can a rule be "unfair" if we all have to deal with it.

Let's say we're allowed to add our own fights that weren't included from now on, yet no one adds the same fights. That's an example of howa rule can be unfair. The rule in question is unfair because people who picked the opponenet who is no longer fighting, have zero chance to earn a point for absolutely no reason under their control. Yet people who picked a boxer to defeat his originxal opponenet still have a chance if theyre guy doesn't drop out even if he fights a total can when he was scheduled to fight a world class top 5 guy. How is that fair?

I predicted the round and ko on the Duddy fight(with Arron in mind) and got 1 point. Did I start bitching that he should have changed the fight earlier?

People had already started predicting at that time. He wasn't in a position to change the fight. Therefore, the new fight should be voided since some players, in this case including you, picked him to defeat another opponent than the man he fought.

No, I dealt with it like you should.

Is it me or are you trying to make this personal? If this isn't a big deal, then why are you acting as such?

Last minute switches happen all the time in boxing.

And your point proving how this rule is fair is?

What is your fix by the way?

What do you mean?

Illuminated and Bilbo, I didnt come away from your posts with any solutions.

Then you didn't read my posts.

Your both little babies who when they arent winning begin to cry foul play. I think you guys are taking it a bit too seriously.

I'm beginning to think more and more you're a failed boxer who took way too many blows to the head.

[No Contest]

Lets call a spade a spade, your a whiner. I agree noone should get a point if the opponent changes. My point...the contest has already started and to change halfway through is not fair. I'm sure BG doesnt want to cycle through all the cancelled fights and rework the scores. Kind of funny that a guy that has taken to many shots to the head as you say is kicking your ass in the comp...so whats that make you? Braindead? Its personal now buddy it wasnt before. I must have just scanned over your posts and missed your solution, sorry about that but your still a whiner.

[Illuminated]

Lets call a spade a spade, your a whiner. I agree noone should get a point if the opponent changes.

Thank you.

My point...the contest has already started and to change halfway through is not fair. I'm sure BG doesnt want to cycle through all the cancelled fights and rework the scores. Kind of funny that a guy that has taken to many shots to the head as you say is kicking your a** in the comp...so whats that make you? Braindead? Its personal now buddy it wasnt before. I must have just scanned over your posts and missed your solution, sorry about that but your still a whiner.

Thank you.

It's always much easier when they prove your point for you.