Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Quote Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
Daxx,

Whilst you and Preme can get into the semantics of what each of you said, the basic fact which is at the bottom of this whole argument, and which you have failed to provide an answer for is this:

Bernard Hopkins had said that he wanted $3 million to fight Calzaghe and wanted the fight in the states. Warren offered that to him, and then when our Mr Hopkins hears that offer, he decides to up his demands to $6 million.

The one thing you have failed to answer is why he decided to up his offer, except for your assertion that it was because he wanted to dictate the terms of their meeting. The flaw there, is that he had already dictated the terms in a fight in the states at $3 million. All you've put forward still fails to answer why Hopkins reneged on the deal he'd demanded.

Answer me that, if you will, Mr Kahn.
I have stated it several times Rhun...Hopkins decided he did not want to let them dictate the terms...The 3 mil was not Hopkins price it was their offer...did he accept is at fisrt yes...but then rethought it.....He decided that there were enough games and negotiation BS and enough of things having to be done their way....Let me ask you this how many times did they go into negotiations then Calzaghes people decide the terms agreed upon was not to their liking?.....Hopkins is the bad guy for giving them a taste of their own medicine??...

Now leave me ask you this why is it that no matter who Calzaghe and his people seem to negotiate with it seems to be a never ending problem?.....EVERY FIGHTER!!!....If Kessler did not decide to say the hell with it I'll go to Him and fight the bout they would not be fighting on the 3rd....Really sit and think...name a fighter who has not had theese problems with them....Calzaghe and his people....(and again I only say Calzaghe because it is his camp but in reality he does none of the negotiations....A reason why I went on the Warren tangent last night) Have earned a reputation as being the hardest people in boxing to make a deal with....

After a while Rhun it can't be everyone else thats the problem especially when these guys seem to make fights with other camps with no such road blocks.....Or is it another case of everyone is AFRAID of Calzaghe?

But now I have answered your question why has someone not answered mine?

How does Hopkins changing his price equal him avoiding Calzaghe?...How does this mean he is just trying to do what ever he can not to fight Joe?....anyone explain this to me,,,,the fear Hopkins has in Calzaghe?.....

Everyone is afraid of the man who can land 1000 punches but not get the KO?
I aint tryin gang up on ya...but both men have the exact same number of knockouts & close to the same amount of fights give or take four or five bouts.

Here's my thing...I have never known Hopkins to run from a challenge. Never...but when you agree to a bout...when you say YES to $3 mill & then a few days down the stretch switch up to $6 mill...that don't swing in your favor. It just does not.

Joe has always been regarded as a danger man by all around his weight. Hopkins & Jones both have spoken of Joe both respectfully & disrespectfully. Both have wanted him on their terms...& Warren has pushed his terms & it has made for difficult...almost impossible terms. Now...Hopkins is his own man 100%. He has the ability to do whatever & whenever for what ever amount he wants.

Now he wants Joe...now that Joe is the name...now that Joe has the lead on defenses...now that Joe is regarded as one of the best in the game...Bernard wants to make the match happen.

That in turn should also speak some bounds...especially off of what he said during the Maskaev fight.

The fight wasn't worth his time when he thought he was gonna get Maskaev...that fell through & now Joe is top of the page.

I love Hopkins...but he is well known for being IMPOSSIBLE at the negotiation points of the game.