Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
The Roy vs Joe @ 168lbs arguement kills me.

Roy fought Toney, Antoine Byrd, Pazienza, Thorton, Sosa, Lucas, & Brannon. Everyone ups Jones so highly off of those opponents at 168lbs & that list really aint shit. I'm sorry...but it's not. The only worthy name there is Toney. Paz was waaaaaaaay past it. Brannon was much to talk about nor was Byrd or Thorton. Lucas was so so.

Those are a bulk of names, outside of Toney, that hold no merit...but everyone lambasts Calzaghe for dominating his division at a weak time...but it's not like Jones fought the strongest opposition at 168lbs.

Roy was a marvel at 175lbs & that is where he fought his best opposition.
The same can be said about Calzaghe. The only names at Super Middleweight are Lacy and Kessler and Eubank who wasnt at his best though I haven't seen the Eubank fight. But I can't see any Hall of Fame names on Calzaghe's record(those that went on to have Hall of Fame careers rather then those who were already cemented like Eubank's career was.


But lets not compare records when we talk about fighters lets look at their styles, I think Roy would have handed Calzaghe his ass.

Calzaghe is a great fighter but Roy was a phonomenal one especially at light heavyweight, at super middleweight I can't see him losing. And I don't see Calzaghe dominating a prime super middleweight toney.


I'm not knocking Calzaghe trhough


And you saying that Roy didn't fight he best at Super Middleweight. James Toney was top2 p4p beside Pernell Whitaker back then wasnt he? I didn't read Ring Magazine back then so I don't know.

The best Super Middleweight when Roy fought him was James Toney.


You're right Calzaghe did more at Super Middleweight then Roy did.