marciano gave holmes his 1st loss

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Actually on the Champions Forever documentary after dinner get together with Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Norton and Holmes, Holmes says he belived he was the greatest in any era, better than Ali and Marciano.

He said the only fighter who would have given him problems would have been Jack Johnson.

marciano he probably could beat, but ALI--hell no--ali would whup him--it took holmes 11 rounds to beat the old ali on prescription drugs--1964 ali would kill holmes

A prime Foreman also would beat the hell out of a prime Holmes (Foreman also would have destroyed Marciano).