Great Britain's best boxing year ever!

[skel1983]

John Simpson then

HAHAHAHAHAHA You got me !!! Sorry Simpson, i just dont rate Matthews, i think Simpson would beat him in a re match.

[superheavyrhun]

Okay thanks amateur so world champs don't count as World champs what was Hatton then between the years of 2001-2004.

A fringe title holder with World Title potential. You can try to sell it anyway you want (see threads about Antonio Tarver's IBO title challenge) but if it's not one of the big four, it's not really recognised.

John Simpson then

HAHAHAHAHAHA You got me !!! Sorry Simpson, i just dont rate Matthews, i think Simpson would beat him in a re match.

Totally agree, I thought that Simpson really pushed Matthews and if the ref was keeping a proper eye on Matthews he'd have lost a point or two for sure. And as it was in Matthews' back yard he got a generous shake of the scores as well. Matthews' gutter boxing style grates with me, same as Bernard Hopkins' does.

[Fenster]

Okay thanks amateur so world champs don't count as World champs what was Hatton then between the years of 2001-2004.

He was one of about a dozen "world" champions promoted by Sports Network

It's bad enough having the 4 "respected" "world" champs without giving credence to all the other alphabet nonsense.

[fugaziuk]

yes after watching haye beat mormeck this afternoon - i gotta agree this is an amazing year for us brits. we just need the mainstream media to get onboard by making joe sports personality of the year! (he won , lewis hamilton lost - surely that makes joe a cert for the trophy)

[Fenster]

yes after watching haye beat mormeck this afternoon - i gotta agree this is an amazing year for us brits. we just need the mainstream media to get onboard by making joe sports personality of the year! (he won , lewis hamilton lost - surely that makes joe a cert for the trophy)

There's been dough for Calzaghe BUT he is a 5/1 shot Hamilton is 1/5. He's got no chance.

He couldn't even make the top three last year, could he, losing out to a gymnast, a golfer getting the sympathy vote and a toff that steered a horse over a few obstacles.

[fugaziuk]

it really annoys me! - the brit rugby team has already been honoured when they won the world cup in 2003, the cricket team and footie team ain't done anything this year. lewis had a great year but he lost when it really mattered - calzaghe should be a no brainer - it sucks that they do this!

[superheavyrhun]

it really annoys me! - the brit rugby team has already been honoured when they won the world cup in 2003, the cricket team and footie team ain't done anything this year. lewis had a great year but he lost when it really mattered - calzaghe should be a no brainer - it sucks that they do this!

The British mindset is jealous and backbiting towards actual winners (see the treatment Clive Woodward got in the press since 2003) whilst the Brits love a brave loser.

[smashup]

Without doubt it's the best year i've known in 32 years.
Easily
We've certainly stamped our UK feet across the planet in Style this year.
And next year could be even better
Not bad for a small island of illegal immigrants

[ono]

Okay thanks amateur so world champs don't count as World champs what was Hatton then between the years of 2001-2004.

protected.

[leftylee]

Okay thanks amateur so world champs don't count as World champs what was Hatton then between the years of 2001-2004.

A fringe title holder with World Title potential. You can try to sell it anyway you want (see threads about Antonio Tarver's IBO title challenge) but if it's not one of the big four, it's not really recognised.

John Simpson then

HAHAHAHAHAHA You got me !!! Sorry Simpson, i just dont rate Matthews, i think Simpson would beat him in a re match.

Totally agree, I thought that Simpson really pushed Matthews and if the ref was keeping a proper eye on Matthews he'd have lost a point or two for sure. And as it was in Matthews' back yard he got a generous shake of the scores as well. Matthews' gutter boxing style grates with me, same as Bernard Hopkins' does.

Chech this out I've been doing research.

Someone at the boxrec forum has calculated the average rank of world title fight losers in 2006.

This is working on the theory that the higher the rank of the title loser, the more credible and competativeness etc. of the fights.

And the results were:

IBF: 10.47 (from 13.51)
WBC: 10.86 (from 9.83)
IBO: 11.15 (from 23.26)
WBO: 16.32 (from 17.11)
WBA: 28.57 (from 17.02)

EBU: 51.12 (from 34.4)
Commonwealth: 51.55 (from 62.10) !!!

Champs Like Wladimir Klitschko, Antonio Tarver, Tomasz Adamek and Ricky Hatton all hold IBO World Champion belts and this shows that the IBO is on the way up.

http://www.boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49667

[superheavyrhun]

Okay thanks amateur so world champs don't count as World champs what was Hatton then between the years of 2001-2004.

A fringe title holder with World Title potential. You can try to sell it anyway you want (see threads about Antonio Tarver's IBO title challenge) but if it's not one of the big four, it's not really recognised.

John Simpson then

HAHAHAHAHAHA You got me !!! Sorry Simpson, i just dont rate Matthews, i think Simpson would beat him in a re match.

Totally agree, I thought that Simpson really pushed Matthews and if the ref was keeping a proper eye on Matthews he'd have lost a point or two for sure. And as it was in Matthews' back yard he got a generous shake of the scores as well. Matthews' gutter boxing style grates with me, same as Bernard Hopkins' does.

Chech this out I've been doing research.

Someone at the boxrec forum has calculated the average rank of world title fight losers in 2006.

This is working on the theory that the higher the rank of the title loser, the more credible and competativeness etc. of the fights.

And the results were:

IBF: 10.47 (from 13.51)
WBC: 10.86 (from 9.83)
IBO: 11.15 (from 23.26)
WBO: 16.32 (from 17.11)
WBA: 28.57 (from 17.02)

EBU: 51.12 (from 34.4)
Commonwealth: 51.55 (from 62.10) !!!

Champs Like Wladimir Klitschko, Antonio Tarver, Tomasz Adamek and Ricky Hatton all hold IBO World Champion belts and this shows that the IBO is on the way up.

http://www.boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49667

Being a bit of a statto myself, I have to say there is a rather big flaw in this logic, because by calculating the ranking of the loser of the fight, it will always mean that the title holder, should he lose, is counted as 1, thus to be at the top of this calculation, all a boxing organisation has to do is to have the champions lose most often.

Basically, this table is slanted towards making boxing organisation with the more beatable champions more competitive with the big four. Another thing which will make it difficult is that if an organisation has an "avoided" champion, it will mean that fighters lower in the rankings will step up to the plate, because higher ranked fighters are chasing other champions.

As was suggested in the thread itself, this would have a lot more credibility if it had calculated the average rank of the challengers, rather than the losers of title fights.

[WelshDevilRob]

You forgot




Seriously though a Great year and also some talented amateurs like Bradley Saunders, Joe Murray and Frankie Gavin who all qualified for the Olympic Games in Beijing.

[donnydarkoIRL]

if Ricky can make it3/3 then it really would be the best year ever for B Boxing