Quote Originally Posted by Nium
When you hear a fighter say he's great and a legend, you know he's not really.

I never even heard of Hopkins until the Trinidad fight, and after that he put me to sleep in the rest of his fights. So no, he's not a great champion.

I'm not sure a 'legend' loses to Jermain Taylor twice.

So because YOU never heard of him before the Trinidad fight thats makes him null and void?....Because Bernard is the first to say he is a legend then that must mean he is not?....
Lets see here...By time he fought Trinidad he already had 12 defenses of the IBF title just 2 away from the all time MW record...He was IBF champion 6+years......The only real loss on his record was Roy Jones..( the debut is not something that is held against him or any other fighter assuming they have a reddeming career to follow but an expert like you would know that)....He was rated among the top fighters in the world...This before he met Trinidad...By time he lost to Taylor he had 20 defenses was undisputed MW champion not just IBF for 4+years...He had defenses against Joppy, Trinidadad, Allen, Eastmen, Hakkar, Holmes, Echols, Johnson to name a few...The losses to a much younger Taylor were not by landslides either....Then he jumps up 2 divisions at 41 yrs old and becomes the LHW ring champion!!!.....How is this not a legend here?.......

Mr140 hit it on the head perfectly....

Quote Originally Posted by Mr140
Hey i am not Bernard's biggest fan but you got to respect a man who is a two division champion and has 20 deffences at Middle weight common sense. And yea great fighters say they are Great hello ALI was so full of him self it is not funny but man he was a legend so F*** off Nium you are just a hater starting S*** like you did with Joe. Why must you always come up with S*** starters are you really that bored my god you suck and have a sad click.

Hopkins may be full of himself but that changes nothing!!!!.....Nium you get a an SC from me just for the assanine post....That post was for nothing but to stir up trouble.....140 heres a CC for telling this idiot he is exactly that!!