Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
Quote Originally Posted by Master
Joe Loius is the second greatest heavyweight of all time behind Ali. However in a one off match he may have lost to Tyson but that does not make him greater than Louis.
1. Louis - 25 successful title defenses
2. Marciano - UNDEFEATED...he fought everyone out there in the division and battered them
3. Ali - give me a stat....just give me TANGIBLE evidence that he's the best, you can't he talked himself to #1. Thanks to the Vietnam issue he has this aura around him and it's complete bullcrap he was a great fighter but NEVER the greatest

Don't like it, tough S***


No other fighter knew their range better than Joe Louis, he never over extended himself he never lept it he stalked and he threw quick percise punches. That right cross would be the end of Tyson
Stats for Muhammad?
He beat Sonny Liston, He beat Floyd Patterson, He beat Joe Frazier, He beat Kenny Norton, He beat George Foreman....

and what?
Marciano beat Charles and Walcott as his crowning glories? (altho comprohensively outboxed in both fights.)

Louis beat Schmeling at his second attempt.(only after his defensive weaknesses were horribly exposed in their first meeting.)